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re: Serious question for the militant vaxxers......
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:38 pm to AUjim
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:38 pm to AUjim
Here's an article from December 8, 2020.
Enjoy!!!!
Enjoy!!!!
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Can you still get infected, and infect others, if you get vaccinated?
Possibly. None of the vaccines tested so far have been 100 percent effective so some vaccinated people may still catch the coronavirus.
What’s more, neither the Pfizer nor the Moderna vaccine trials tested whether the vaccines prevent people from being infected with the virus. Those trials, instead, focused on whether people were shielded from developing disease symptoms. That means that it’s not clear whether vaccinated people could still develop asymptomatic infections — and thus still be able to spread the virus to others.
In both trials, some people who got the vaccine did get sick with COVID-19, but not as sick as those who got placebos. One vaccine recipient became severely ill in the Pfizer study compared with nine in the placebo group (SN: 11/18/20). No one who got the Moderna vaccine became severely ill, while 30 people who got the placebo developed severe disease (SN: 11/30/20).
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:40 pm to AUjim
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But I am tired of you jackasses revising history and rejecting or flat out ignoring facts.
I resent jackasses that spend all their time trying to force me to take the vaccine. I resent being told that I have to show my papers before I can enter a restaurant or public place. I resent jackasses forcing kids to wear masks that don't work.
That's what this is about. We are headed to a point where we can't work or go to any public places unless we show our papers. Before you tell me that's ridiculous, look at New York. Hell, look at Tiger Stadium on Saturday night this fall.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:41 pm to Vandergriff
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They NEVER said, when vaccines first became available, that it would not keep you from catching or spreading covid.
Umm, your president said this exact thing like a month or two ago. Word for word.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm to MMauler
Follow the money. Fauci has an mRNA patent.. As long as he helps this mess go on and on... Whether by variant or outright lie... he and his heirs make moolah.... It is as wrong as it gets.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm to Tridentds
quote:It's a post on this board. He's asking the militant vaxxers here a question.
They are everywhere on TV, in business, in government, local government, schools. I refuse to believe you are this ignorant and unaware.
quote:Wh are you addressing here?
Get vaccinated all you want. If it works then what the frick do you care if you are next to someone that CHOSE not to be vaccinated.l How the frick do you reconcile this internally?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:43 pm to AUjim
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It was quite literally always reported to be somewhere around 95% effective.....so.....???
The survival rate of the China Virus is 99.8%.
Why take a risk if the survival rate is so high?
I might could see taking the vaxx if the survival rate was 75%.
I just wonder how many vaxxed people exposed the elderly to the virus because they were told the vaxx made them Superman.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:44 pm to oldcharlie8
Doctors at the local level are just trying their best. The conspiring is happening at the federal govt level and especially related to the CDC
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:44 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Before you tell me that's ridiculous, look at New York. Hell, look at Tiger Stadium on Saturday night this fall.
... And take a look back at Nazi Germany. fricking fascists.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:47 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Jax-Tiger
I couldnt agree with you more. The whole thing is a debacle of epic proportions. It should absolutely be a personal choice.
There are plenty of jackasses at each end of the spectrum.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:02 pm to Vandergriff
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Once the rollout was underway, they got really confident due to the absolute success as evidenced by reduced death and hospitalization. They rightfully moved toward no masks, opening, etc... Then the variant happened. And now all you dumbasses want to forget all the stuff that happened in between.
That is so fricking wrong, it’s an outright lie or willful ignorance of someone who had themselves injected with “something” that’s gonna keep them safe and comfy. THEY never claimed immunity but did promise a 90-95% efficacy rate with only a very limited data base, but all 3 Big Pharma vaccines did state that those vaccinated would NOT transmit the virus. So the Pandemic would be stopped dead in it’s tracks as transmission would halt at you and not spread to your neighbors, BIG frickING WRONG. Also, Delta was running rampant in India & the UK in Dec. 2020 BEFORE the vaxx train was in full swing here.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:08 pm to Boomdaddy65201
Exactly.... Beautifully stated. The CDC and Big Pharma keep moving the goalposts and the vaxxed bow down and accept it. It's pathetic.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:08 pm to Vandergriff
but it doesn't stop u from spreading it so . . .
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:25 pm to Boomdaddy65201
quote:What?
but all 3 Big Pharma vaccines did state that those vaccinated would NOT transmit the virus
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By Natalie Rahhal U.S. Health Editor
10:23 EDT 04 Dec 2020 , updated 18:27 EDT 04 Dec 2020
Pfizer's coronavirus jab may not prevent vaccinated people from spreading coronavirus, the firm's chairman admitted this week.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:47 pm to Jake88
Well we could do this all day, my source was an article from WaPo. in 12/20 stating vaccinated wouldn’t spread transmission from the host.
But my argument still stands that if the vaccines were not going to stop transmission from those that are vaccinated to anyone else then we’re never going to get this under control. Whether natural or vaccination if the virus doesn’t halt at the host the point is mute. Because you know as well as I there’s always going to be variants out there two steps ahead, particularly sense this is a coronavirus.
But my argument still stands that if the vaccines were not going to stop transmission from those that are vaccinated to anyone else then we’re never going to get this under control. Whether natural or vaccination if the virus doesn’t halt at the host the point is mute. Because you know as well as I there’s always going to be variants out there two steps ahead, particularly sense this is a coronavirus.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:03 pm to AUjim
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I couldnt agree with you more.
Except I disagree with your point. The "jackasses" who don't take the jab are just trying to stop what is clearly happening, which is a massive violation of our rights and a power grab by authoritarians in the government. If the folks who took the vaccine would just say, "I took it and I respect your right to take it, or not", then jackasses like me would have no poit and we'd go away.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:08 pm to AUjim
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the vaccine would not stop you from getting it or spreading it.
This isn't how vaccines work though.
In fact, this vaccine has increased the viral load in vaxxed patients causing them to get unvaccinated people sick when the unvaccinated had been able to avoid covid for over a year.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:09 pm to AUjim
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This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:12 pm to MMauler
I will be getting the booster the first day I can. I will listen to people who have spent their lives working in this particular field before I will some idiot who gets his science knowledge from facebook.
But, by all means, y'all go get some horse dewormer.
Better yet ... story last week said deer in four states have been found to have COVID antibodies. So, go to Walmart, find some Tink's Doe Urine with a packaged date of this calendar year, and drink that. Oughta do the trick. Rather than, you know, the vaccines we send hundreds of billions of borrowed dollars developing.
But, by all means, y'all go get some horse dewormer.
Better yet ... story last week said deer in four states have been found to have COVID antibodies. So, go to Walmart, find some Tink's Doe Urine with a packaged date of this calendar year, and drink that. Oughta do the trick. Rather than, you know, the vaccines we send hundreds of billions of borrowed dollars developing.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:23 pm to AUjim
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Can you still get infected, and infect others, if you get vaccinated?
Possibly.
You found one obscure magazine which said that you could POSSIBLY get Covid after getting vaccinated and that is your source for saying "everybody knew" and that's what "THEY" told us all along.
And you honestly thought this garbage supported your f*cking LIE?
You have to be....
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:26 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Except I disagree with your point.
What exactly do you think my point was?
I never argued one thing about mandating or even encouraging vaccines. I argue against shitty logic and dishonesty.
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