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re: Serious question for the militant vaxxers......

Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by lsufan31
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:27 pm to
Alright, I’ll be your huckleberry.

I will take them all, however many it takes to keep me safe.

17 members of my immediate and extended family all just had covid. I’m the only one who didn’t get it, and I’m the only one vaccinated. 6 of those people had significant symptoms, and at least 3 will have life long health complications. Ages ranged from 4-68 ish. The 3 with the most serious symptoms and lasting effects were 4, 48, and 50. So frick that 99% recovery rate. I’d rather not have it at all.

You do you though, if you don’t want the shot, suffer the consequences.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:37 pm to
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MMauler


What is 'my' lie exactly?

You started off this little exchange not even reading my post for context....you just saw someone who disagreed with your dumbass take and immediately decided i was a "militant vaxxer" when i have never postured in that direction. THEN you start using dipshit tactics of arguing against stuff i'm not even saying, and then 'discrediting' a source because it doesnt fit your narrative.

Your are literally EXACTLY the same as the people you claim to hate.

Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:38 pm to
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if you don’t want the shot, suffer the consequences.



I’ll take the 99.998% survival rate risk of getting Covid over taking one of these EXPERIMENTAL gene therapy drug that no one can tell you what the long term side effects are.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31589 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:39 pm to
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There should be no mandates. There should be no tracking. Just let people who want it, get it.


This. And it's not a one size fits all panacea. To mandate something that is far from benign violates our "First do no harm" mantra. I don't think kids should be getting it as a general rule. But if they have underlying conditions and risk factors, it should be up to them and their parents.

The reporting and tracking of side effects from the vaccine should be much, much more thorough and transparent. People can't make informed decision without reliable information.

I don't think those with natural immunity need the vaccine. I think showing proof of antibodies should be superior to proof of vaccination. I don't know why natural immunity is being ignored. How many of the current patients in ICU beds had COVID prior? How many deaths from a second COVID infection have there been? And a rapid test positive with no proof of antibodies isn't worth a shite.
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:40 pm to
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There are all kinds of reports saying that you will be taking “booster shots" anywhere from every three months to every six months.


How many more people will die from getting too much of the vax? The side effects of the booster shots will impact some people. Those who already had side effects from the first or second shot will not be able to get the 3rd. Will they be included in the "unvaxxed" group?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73288 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:44 pm to
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They NEVER said, when vaccines first became available, that it would not keep you from catching or spreading covid. IN FACT, they said the opposite.

You just stated an outright LIE.

They absolutely DID say the vaccines would protect you from getting covid and spreading it.


Exactly, which is why they had to implement another buzzword for the media to use ad nauseam: “breakthrough” cases
Posted by BaldEagleHey
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:44 pm to
Were any of them therapeutics? Antibody infusion, ivermectin, hcq, zpack, vitamin D3, zinc?
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24440 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:45 pm to
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What is 'my' lie exactly?


Are you f*cking serious?

That we were told this all along.

You know, the blatant f*cking LIE that almost everyone in the string has called you out for.

You scoured the Internet to find one fricking obscure magazine that said Covid might possibly not prevent you getting the disease and spreading it and you are so f*cking ignorant that you didn't even realize that it did just the f*cking opposite of supporting your LIE.

You have to be one of the dumbest motherf*ckers on the planet.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7468 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:46 pm to
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They 100% said from the outset (Decemberish) that the vaccine would not stop you from getting it or spreading it. They said it would mitigate and reduce serious symptoms.
. They 100% said that the vaccines were 94+% effective at preventing Covid. They also said that vaccinated people couldn’t spread it. It was just a few weeks ago when the new that people who had gotten the shot might be super spreaders that people went crazy. This post is some serious gaslighting. Any statement otherwise is completely revisionist.
Now they are saying around 86% effective at preventing hospitalization/serious cases. We will see if that number stays that high.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31589 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:50 pm to
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You do you though, if you don’t want the shot, suffer the consequences.


I don't and I will. I had COVID prior to the vaccine. I'm exposed to it everyday. Antibodies still going strong. Why take the risk of the vaccine for no definite advantage and the possibility of debilitating or fatal side effects?

I may feel different about my personal situation had I not had it and continue to have antibodies. I have seen one re-infection. Mild symptoms second go around. Was pretty sick for two weeks last September. Doing great. Got his booster the natural way. My oldest daughter had it late September last year. Two roommates positive, worked in close contact with numerous people who later were found to be positive while coaching cheer. All other instructors fully vaxxed. 19 of 20 of them tested positive for COVID over a 2 week time span. 3 or 4 ended up hospitalized. Guess which one never had a symptom and tested negative? Yep, the one with natural antibodies that refused the vaccine or mask. Rechecked her antibodies and IgM is positive again. So her body did mount a response despite her lack of symptoms. Technically, she could be considered a re-infection, but has been negative every week on swabs.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:55 pm to
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i'll take one a day

Eventually it will begin costing YOU, over $40 a shot. What's your limit then?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:57 pm to
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And who are these people?

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AlxTgr

If we go alphabetically, you might be at the top.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3812 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:58 pm to
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MMauler


Keep calling it 'obscure'
That'll totally negate it.

Make sure you figure out some strategy for negating the DIRECT frickING QUOTE FROM PFIZER's chairman from December 4 on page 3 that you conveniently glossed over.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:00 pm to
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They NEVER said, when vaccines first became available, that it would not keep you from catching or spreading covid.

No, this idiot is actually correct. They didn't say it when it first became available in Dec. 2020, they waited until March 29, 2021 and broadcast it nationwide to the hesitant.
quote:

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus — they don’t get sick,” Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC, told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Tuesday. That’s “not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real-world data.”

Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14780 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:00 pm to
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You started off this little exchange not even reading my post for context.


There’s your first problem. He’s illiterate.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2211 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:07 pm to
Antibody infusions we’re given to the 48 and 50 year old, but they didn’t seek treatment until it was too late to have any meaningful impact.

They were all given the recommended vitamins. None of them took ivermectin or hcq.
Posted by rphtx
CO
Member since Apr 2018
1568 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:15 pm to
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Sister Mary Elephant


You are old
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24440 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:23 pm to
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No, this idiot is actually correct. They didn't say it when it first became available in Dec. 2020, they waited until March 29, 2021 and broadcast it nationwide to the hesitant.




But, muh, muh, muh, that most widely read science magazines of virologist and everyday people alike, ScienceNews Magazine.

This kind of falls into that a broken clock telling the right time twice a day category.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted by icutmyownlawn
Member since Jun 2021
931 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:37 pm to
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Serious question for the militant vaxxers......


Serious question for the militant maskers and vaxxers.

How has all of Africa with a population of 1.2 billion people been able to keep the COVID death count under 200,000?

Their hospitals suck. Not one hospital in top 100 in the World. Some of them are made out of dung. They have an estimated 200,000 doctor's total for 1.6 billion people. You know most of them trained themselves with medieval equipment.

How did Africa do so well?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:40 pm to
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Posted by oldcharlie8 ? on 8/25/21 at 3:59 pm to MMauler

i'll take one a day if it helps prevent me from smothering to death. even if it increases my survival chances by only 10%.





Are you willing to drive to work every day?
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