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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:59 am to
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There you go again. I must have not returned your phone call before I met my husband


Admit it. You do. Ole 4Hubbies must be looking elsewhere lately.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:59 am to
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Someone that had nothing to do with a murder gets charged with murder and you think it's fine because it fits within the confines of the law?


Precisely this. “He should have never taken the 85 cents if he didn’t want to spend the rest of his life in prison.”
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82339 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:59 am to
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what a reach to try and draw ANY parallels between what is happening to Trump


It's a good analogy.

There is a jumping off point where the legal system connects events with events to create new crimes and it's limited only by the imagination.

That's actually real. And I'm not saying the felony murder rule is not a useful legal tool.
But having a conversation about putting limits and logical breaks into event sequences around that tool is a good thing.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:00 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37270 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:59 am to
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I'm quoting so that in a year or so, I have the receipts

Am I going to be committing a felony that I’m yet unaware of?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:00 am to
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Rent free

You do realize I'm defending Trump indirectly, right?

Or is this conversation too complicated for you to follow?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:01 am to
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Or is this conversation too complicated for you to follow?


This must be a rhetorical question.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82339 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:01 am to
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You do realize I'm defending Trump indirectly, right?


Well I do.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:01 am to
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Am I going to be committing a felony that I’m yet unaware of?

Actually I will admit I goofed. I didn't look directly at the name I was responding to and it came off as "oogabooga68" via my side eye.

That's who I thought I was quoting.

I don't think you will be melting over Trump's major felony conviction in a year or so, no, so receipts aren't necessary.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:02 am to
Pretty sure NC does, too.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13459 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:03 am to
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Someone that had nothing to do with a murder


If the person really had nothing to do with it they shouldn't be charged under this statute. This is for people whose criminal acts led to someone's death and without those criminal acts, no death would have occurred.

What you're talking about is a statute that is mis-applied, not a faulty statute.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13459 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:05 am to
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I still don’t think any of them should spend life in prison for their crimes against me.


If those crimes ended up causing the death of an innocent bystander, what should the penalty be?

(Hint—they aren't being charged on your behalf. They're being charged on behalf of the person whose death they caused.)
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:10 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16643 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:06 am to
This article really leads me to abhor Sarah Stillman, the author.

It would be nice to have a conversation about the facts of the case without all the irrelevant life stories about childhood, family conversations, occupations, hopes and dreams.

When there are finally facts, I’m already doubting the accuracy because of all the effort to emotionally impact the reader.

I’m going to have to look for a different source.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173651 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:07 am to
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If the person really had nothing to do with it they shouldn't be charged under this statute. This is for people whose criminal acts led to someone's death and without those criminal acts, no death would have occurred.

That's about as practical as charging a gun manufacturer in a shooting death
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7904 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:08 am to
The thieves should have weighed the risks before they decided to break the law.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13459 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:10 am to
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That's about as practical as charging a gun manufacturer in a shooting death


Because the gun manufacturer was engaging in illegal activity by selling the gun?

Otherwise no, those are apples and oranges.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29726 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:11 am to
Watch a few episodes of The First 48, and you'll get a pretty clear picture of felony murder statutes.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138874 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:11 am to
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This article really leads me to abhor Sarah Stillman, the author.

It would be nice to have a conversation about the facts of the case without all the irrelevant life stories about childhood, family conversations, occupations, hopes and dreams.

That's the truth. Meanwhile, relevant facts, like the exact nature of his testimony, got skimmed. That is normally not accidental.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182296 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:12 am to
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the result of a high speed police chase


So why weren’t the police charged?



My goodness you are a really dumb individual
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173651 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:13 am to
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Because the gun manufacturer was engaging in illegal activity by selling the gun?

Otherwise no, those are apples and oranges.

The guy that was just checking doors didn't do anything to contribute to their deaths just as the fun manufacturer didn't
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:13 am to
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If the person really had nothing to do with it they shouldn't be charged under this statute.


I’m really having a hard time understanding how Baxter reasonably caused the deaths of the cyclists. Do you? Or are you saying in this particular instance, it doesn’t make sense?
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