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re: Sentenced to Life for an Accident Miles Away

Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:36 pm to
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If the public started handling these matters and taking out the scum like we were intended to do, we wouldn't have these problems. See someone breaking in your car, put a bullet in them.


Oh I see...you're just a moron

Carry on
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:37 pm to
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No one here has suggested the two thugs shouldn't be prosecuted.


How does a criminal get prosecuted if they aren't detained? If the police don't know who the perps
are, and say it's a stolen vehicle, like it often is these days, then what? Are they supposed to let everyone go free as long as they make it to a vehicle and start to run?
No one is saying to run them all down at all costs, but even a simple chase can turn badly in a second. This one ended poorly, but that doesn't take away from the initial cause and who's at fault for that.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:38 pm to
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Oh I see...you're just a moron

Carry on


Fine. Then you're an anti gun liberal that would rather live in a nanny state.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:39 pm to
There didn't seem to be any problem detaining the first suspect. Yet you still want him charged with murder even though he was in handcuffs when the crash happened.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:40 pm to
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See someone breaking in your car, put a bullet in them. THAT is the only thing that will start making them think twice. The police just screw everything up


So your solution is to return to the wild west and you think that will yield a better outcome with less innocent people killed?
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:44 pm to
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So your solution is to return to the wild west and you think that will yield a better outcome with less innocent people killed?



I said it would actually be a deterrent. Are you really trying to claim that crime isn't a much bigger problem now than the "wild west" days? Castle doctrine extends to your car. And in states like mine, FL, we have even broader terms for defending ourselves. Tell me, why exactly are you so inclined to entrust the police to protect you?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143800 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:46 pm to
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Should we start throwing people in jail for minor traffic violations?


do the minor crimes result in two fatalities?

are you so dumb you can't see the false equivalency of speeding and breaking into multiple cars to steal other peoples property?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7155 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:47 pm to
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There didn't seem to be any problem detaining the first suspect. Yet you still want him charged with murder even though he was in handcuffs when the crash happened.


He was complicit in the actions that lead to the deaths, so yes.

What if they killed someone, then he stopped and was arrested and this other guy went on to kill the other two people still. Should they both not be charged with all three deaths?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:54 pm to
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Dex Morgan


They don’t really believe any of these charges are reasonable. They are just virtue signaling and posing like alphas because they heard that alphas are tough on crime and take a hard line, no compromise! Thats what Andrew Tate would do!!!. Truth is no one thinks these charges are reasonable. Not even the DAs. They are just tools to get the defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges.
You know as well as I if their kid was up against something like this they would beg and plead for leniency and cry themselves to sleep over the unfairness. Big government cuck stooges.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143800 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:54 pm to
Another point you are probably missing, is young Sidek was most likely offered an opportunity to plea to manslaughter and a lessor sentence than life.

I know this is presumptuous. But it is the way most courts work.

When Sidek and his buddy decided to go on a crime spree that resulted in the death of two innocent citizens, they both became accountable for their lives.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21450 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:20 pm to
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1. This wasn’t a murder because it wasn’t premeditated.


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2. The person was in police custody when the cyclists were killed and had no knowledge that his accomplice would evade arrest


I’m going to say it again real slow for you. When you commit a crime (in this case breaking and entering) and you or your partner flee the scene, in the eyes of the law the crime is still in progress. There is no distinction between the two. One crime didn’t end and the clock reset for another to begin. If the cops shoot him, you get charged with murder. If he hits a tree and dies, you get charged with murder. If he kills someone, you get charged with murder. There is no but I was just the lookout or I was unarmed or I was in cuffs in the back of the cop car. It doesn’t matter. If someone dies during the commission of a crime, your criminal arse is going to be charged.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16766 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:40 pm to
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It’s always funny to hear leftist call people government boot lickers when y’all cheer on government overreach and prosecution when it comes to people you disagree with politically or because of the color of the perpetrator’s skin





I guarantee I am way to the right of your bootlicking arse.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:47 pm to
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It's like opening Pandoras box, did the guy not participate in opening the box?


Should he also be charged with evading arrest?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Why was the accomplice running though?


Because he didn’t want to get arrested.

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Would the cyclists have died had these two not decided to commit a felony that day?
we have no way of knowing this. They certainly wouldn’t have been killed if the driver hadn’t crashed into them while Baxter was in handcuffs.

Should we arrest his parents too? If he wouldn’t have been born, the cyclists would still be alive.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14666 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:51 pm to
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Should we arrest his parents too?


For raising a little shite of a son? Absolutely.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:53 pm to
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Not sure about you but I want violent criminals arrested. Each of these people had a record and were actively involved in a crime.


You’re giving WAYYYYYYY too much power to the government here. This is fascism. Using the government’s discretion to determine what is violent and who should be arrested for any crime. There are thousands of felonies on the books. You likely committed 5 today. We all probably did.

Life without parole!!!
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:53 pm to
Cop pulls your kid over going 85 in a 65 which is a felony in Alabama. Cop is hit by a car while apprehending your kid and dies.

You tell your kid to suck it up and deal with their murder charge like the criminal they are or nah?
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14666 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 6:56 pm to
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There are thousands of felonies on the books. You like committed 5 today.


I can't speak for you, but I know I didn't.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61380 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:08 pm to
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but I know I didn't.


doubtful
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143800 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:13 pm to
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Cop pulls your kid over going 85 in a 65 which is a felony in Alabama. Cop is hit by a car while apprehending your kid and dies.

You tell your kid to suck it up and deal with their murder charge like the criminal they are or nah?


you seem to have omitted a couple of facts in your assertion.

quote:

Alabama drivers can now be charged with a felony for the following: driving from Alabama into another state during a police chase. exceeding the posted speed limit by 20 miles per hour. Injuring or killing someone while fleeing from the police.


simply going 85 in 65 is not a felony. nice try though.


ETA - I misread that. I guess speeding can be charged as felony in Alabama. It's probably best not to go over 20mph in Alabama.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 7:17 pm
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