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re: Sentenced to Life for an Accident Miles Away

Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:53 pm to
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do you know if Baxter was offered a plea?


Probably so since it was a bullshite trumped up charge to begin with
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:01 pm to
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Probably so since it was a bullshite trumped up charge to begin with


further proof Sadik doesn't make good decisions.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:01 pm to
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then that guy (Baxter) should not have chosen to break the law that day. it all goes back to just be a good human. good humans don't rob people. do you know if Baxter was offered a plea?


Maybe Good humans don’t lock a 23 year old up and throw away the key for breaking into a car?

Quite honestly, I think I’d rather be friends with a car mat thief than with a person who could send a young man away for life for stealing car mats. I really don’t think I’d like to be around a person with that level of callousness. In my view that’s pretty close to evil.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Maybe Good humans don’t lock a 23 year old up and throw away the key for breaking into a car?



he isn't being locked away for breaking into cars. he is being locked away because two people died as a consequence of the crime he and his friend conspired to commit.

why do you keep saying they were breaking into cars to steal car mats? they were looking for money, electronics, and guns.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173651 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:08 pm to
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he is being locked away because two people died as a consequence of the crime he and his friend conspired to commit.


That's a stretch

The friend should be on the hook since he was the one driving the vehicle and killed the people

He shouldn't suffer the same fate as his friend in a just world

Anyone defending that is a moron. Even the families of the victims thought it was stupid
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:09 pm to
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isn't being locked away for breaking into cars. he is being locked away because two people died as a consequence of the crime he and his friend conspired to commit. why do you keep saying they were breaking into cars to steal car mats? they were looking for money, electronics, and guns.


He didn’t have anything to do with the deaths and you know that. Just because the law says they can overcharge him doesn’t mean he was responsible for those deaths.

His only crime, if he’s standing before God, is getting into a car that wasn’t his.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:14 pm to
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He shouldn't suffer the same fate as his friend in a just world


i understand that the guy who fled literally has more blood on his hands. but they are both culpable. however, they both have to be held accountable.

i strongly suspect Sadik was offered a plea with a reduced sentence. being that they were in Broward County his lawyer probably surmised they would get a sympathetic jury. they chose wrong.

there are probably other facts that we are unaware of as well. Sadik may have been the ringleader. you, cubbies, and the alabama guy are just emotional thinkers. i suspect you thought Steven Avery was innocent as well after watching that Netflix show.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:16 pm to
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i understand that the guy who fled literally has more blood on his hands

Yes. Because the other guy has 0.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14665 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:18 pm to
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i strongly suspect Sadik was offered a plea with a reduced sentence. being that they were in Broward County his lawyer probably surmised they would get a sympathetic jury. they chose wrong.


In other words they rolled the dice and came up craps.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:25 pm to
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i strongly suspect Sadik was offered a plea with a reduced sentence. being that they were in Broward County his lawyer probably surmised they would get a sympathetic jury. they chose wrong. In other words they rolled the dice and came up craps.


Yeah how dare the guy assert his innocence and expose the draconian prosecutorial process of overcharging defendants so they’ll take an uncontested plea. I guess we know how the cucks of the board would bend if ever put on the state railroad.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14665 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:27 pm to
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Yeah how dare the guy assert his innocence and expose the draconian prosecutorial process of overcharging defendants so they’ll take an uncontested plea.


Does ANY of this go again the laws of the State of Florida? Didn't think so.

The laws were followed, correctly?

You don't like a) the outcome and b) the law. Change the laws if you don't like them, rather then just bitching about the outcome when they are followed.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:37 pm to
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Does ANY of this go again the laws of the State of Florida? Didn't think so. The laws were followed, correctly? You don't like a) the outcome and b) the law. Change the laws if you don't like them, rather then just bitching about the outcome when they are followed.

Thanks for the tip.

We’re on a message board which primarily deals with bitching about things. Not sure this place would exist if they banned bitching.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:48 pm to
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do you know if Baxter was offered a plea?


The article talked about so many different people who were peripherally involved in the deaths of others who are now in prison for life that I can’t really remember which details went with each person.

I only indicated that I was taking about (Baxter) because all the pronouns were he and I wanted to be clear about who I was referring to. Petty.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143796 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:52 pm to
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The article talked about so many different people who were peripherally involved in the deaths of others who are now in prison for life


like I said earlier, there is a moral to be learned here.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:53 pm to
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Quite honestly, I think I’d rather be friends with a car mat thief than with a person who could send a young man away for life for stealing car mats. I really don’t think I’d like to be around a person with that level of callousness. In my view that’s pretty close to evil.


The total lack of self-awareness in this thread is truly astonishing.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:55 pm to
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like I said earlier, there is a moral to be learned here.


We’ve learned this immoral countless times already.

That’s the point of this whole thread. Maybe it’s ok for laws to be reconsidered.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:55 pm to
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They don’t really believe any of these charges are reasonable. They are just virtue signaling and posing like alphas because they heard that alphas are tough on crime and take a hard line, no compromise! Thats what Andrew Tate would do!!!. Truth is no one thinks these charges are reasonable. Not even the DAs. They are just tools to get the defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges.
You know as well as I if their kid was up against something like this they would beg and plead for leniency and cry themselves to sleep over the unfairness. Big government cuck stooges.


Exactly. 90% of the so called "conservatives" here have no idea what it actually means to be conservative. They have zero issue with government overreach and twisting laws and legislation to fit whatever they want it to be. Then they'll complain when Democrats do the exact same thing and they're the ones that handed them the precedent and case law. Zero self awareness.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:57 pm to
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You don't like a) the outcome and b) the law. Change the laws if you don't like them, rather then just bitching about the outcome when they are followed.


So why do you even post here? Posting on a message board in and of itself is fruitless. Why bother? Are you just bitching too?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Exactly. 90% of the so called "conservatives" here have no idea what it actually means to be conservative. They have zero issue with government overreach and twisting laws and legislation to fit whatever they want it to be. Then they'll complain when Democrats do the exact same thing and they're the ones that handed them the precedent and case law. Zero self awareness.


Truth is that most people, left and right, don’t like the untidiness of freedom. They prefer strict dogma of legal code over sloppy subjectivity. And I’d wager they feel confident they won’t be liable for their transgressions because they’ve gotten away with their crimes so long they don’t even realize they are committing them anymore.
Dollars to donuts all these board Barney Fifes have stolen more by claiming unearned deductions on their taxes than this petty floor mat thief has dreamed of taking.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:22 pm to
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Truth is that most people, left and right, don’t like the untidiness of freedom. They prefer strict dogma of legal code over sloppy subjectivity. And I’d wager they feel confident they won’t be liable for their transgressions because they’ve gotten away with their crimes so long they don’t even realize they are committing them anymore. Dollars to donuts all these board Barney Fifes have stolen more by claiming unearned deductions on their taxes than this petty floor mat thief has dreamed of taking.


not to mention people calling the thieves evil and calling for their executions at the hands of the benevolent government… while calling dissenters communists.

Like I said earlier- no self-awareness whatsoever.
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