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re: Sentenced to Life for an Accident Miles Away
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:14 pm to Robin Masters
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:14 pm to Robin Masters
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Cop pulls your kid over going 85 in a 65 which is a felony in Alabama. Cop is hit by a car while apprehending your kid and dies.
You tell your kid to suck it up and deal with their murder charge like the criminal they are or nah?
That's not the same situation. There's a reasonable likelihood that a cop can get hit while doing the duties of the job. He could have got hit after pulling a kid over for a tail light being out.
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:16 pm to Rebel
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Alabama drivers can now be charged with a felony for the following: driving from Alabama into another state during a police chase. exceeding the posted speed limit by 20 miles per hour. Injuring or killing someone while fleeing from the police.
Bro
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:29 pm to Steadyhands
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hat's not the same situation. There's a reasonable likelihood that a cop can get hit while doing the duties of the job. He could have got hit after pulling a kid over for a tail light being out.
How is that relevant?
Would he have gotten hit if the kid wasn’t speeding?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:32 pm to stout
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Where do you people come up with this fantasy? No one has said this and the law doesn't even say this. Most of these laws have a variation of "during the commission of a crime" in them. They do not say "liable in perpetuity for all further actions of accomplice"
Oh ok.
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The crime of theft wasn't over until all involved were arrested. That is how conspiracy crimes work.
Wait, are all liable for the actions of other until all are arrested or not? How long after police fail to arrest one are the others no longer liable for what the one on the loose does? A day? A week? A year?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:33 pm to 4cubbies
I’m cool with the guy being jailed for life or executed if he was a repeat criminal burglar. However, it seems like a stretch to call him responsible for the death of a man for breaking into someone else’s car. 
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:35 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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Wait, are all liable for the actions of other until all are arrested or not? How long after police fail to arrest one are the others no longer liable for what the one on the loose does? A day? A week? A year?
I asked this earlier today.
Crickets.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:36 pm to stout
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I don't disagree but if criminals know all they have to do to get away with a crime is speed off and the police won't pursue then what do you think that will lead to?
One innocent person is killed every day in high speed police chases. Is apprehending the guy who burgled cars worth the two lives that were lost as a result of the chase?
Is putting someone in a cage more important than letting two innocent people live?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:39 pm to 4cubbies
if we are living in a world of hypotheticals wouldn't the world be better if the fathers of young men taught them not to break into other peoples cars?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:44 pm to Steadyhands
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That's not the same situation
Correct
In this case the person going 20 over the speed limit is probably a greater threat to the safety of others around them
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:45 pm to 4cubbies
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How is that relevant?
Would he have gotten hit if the kid wasn’t speeding?
Maybe, maybe not. The point is that just because it may be a felony to go 20 over in Alabama, doesn't it make it more likely that a cop gets hit than if he were pulled over for a lesser violation. There is an assumed risk with being a traffic cop.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:48 pm to Steadyhands
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The point is that just because it may be a felony to go 20 over in Alabama, doesn't it make it more likely that a cop gets hit than if he were pulled over for a lesser violation.
I think you might be waking up to the problem with this law
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:52 pm to 4cubbies
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Is apprehending the guy who burgled cars worth the two lives that were lost as a result of the chase?
Are all democrats single variable thinkers?
My experience is yes.
It drives all their asinine theories on everything.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:12 pm to Powerman
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The point is that just because it may be a felony to go 20 over in Alabama, doesn't it make it more likely that a cop gets hit than if he were pulled over for a lesser violation.
I think you might be waking up to the problem with this law
yeah, drawing the line at 20 is a little steep to call it a felony considering the rest of traffic was likely flowing at 10-15 over. Now, if he then evaded police, but finally pulls over and the cop gets hit, throw the book at him.
Burglarizing 5 cars is far worse than simply going 20 over and then complying by pulling over immediately.
Would those bikers have been killed if they hadn't broken into vehicles? Just one of them backing out ahead of time would have likely prevented the whole thing.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:33 pm to Rebel
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if we are living in a world of hypotheticals wouldn't the world be better if the fathers of young men taught them not to break into other peoples cars?
1000000%
The world would be better if they stuck around, period.
But this guy (Baxter) can’t be there for his daughter at all, ever again.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:35 pm to Steadyhands
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Would those bikers have been killed if they hadn't broken into vehicles?
If literally anything happened differently that day for anyone involved it wouldn't have happened
They didn't die because they were breaking into vehicles
They died because someone was driving like a maniac to evade the police. That person should be charged. Not the other person that was nowhere near the accident.
This is just silly to even think about defending
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:37 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Are all democrats single variable thinkers?
My experience is yes.
It drives all their asinine theories on everything.
This whole article/thread is about charging and sentencing people. So what did you expect me to comment on?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:39 pm to BuckyCheese
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You don't think people are questioning that law? Threads like this are great for bringing out the authoritarian bootlickers.
It’s a basic tenet of criminal law and some version of it is the law in all 50 states.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:42 pm to Powerman
quote:What if the driver was speeding away because he knew his accomplice was going to squeal on him? Why would he not share some responsibility?
They died because someone was driving like a maniac to evade the police. That person should be charged. Not the other person that was nowhere near the accident.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:48 pm to Diamondawg
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What if the driver was speeding away because he knew his accomplice was going to squeal on him?
Now you're just being ridiculous
How would you ever prove what is in someone's mind like that in a court of law?
I think at the point he was trying to evade the police he was already in enough trouble and it didn't matter what his accomplice would say at that point.
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Why would he not share some responsibility?
Because he took no part in killing the people. I can't believe you people are actually seriously arguing this stupid shite.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:51 pm to 4cubbies
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But this guy (Baxter) can’t be there for his daughter at all, ever again.
then that guy (Baxter) should not have chosen to break the law that day.
it all goes back to just be a good human. good humans don't rob people.
do you know if Baxter was offered a plea?
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