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Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:37 am to Powerman
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And charged him with tax evasion and not murder right?
Tell us what it is you don’t understand about the ubiquitous felony murder rule counselor
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:37 am to Larry_Hotdogs
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Right, wrong, or indifferent, there’s a reason this law exists. All the Brooklyn beard-stroking and postulation is just buyers remorse at this point.
Now do Trump's prosecution in GA.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
clown Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:40 am to stout
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Do you know what sort of shitty human being you have to be to not only choose being a career criminal but to also commit armed robbery?
Their are lines that, when crossed, indicate to people with a functioning brain and set of morals indicate that you are willingly forfeiting your right to be a part of civilization.
When you seek to violently part people from their hard-earned money, you have crossed that line and Society does NOT owe you a chance to re-enter.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:40 am to Powerman
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It does seem unreasonable to charge the guy with murder when he didn't kill anyone though don't you think?
Their actions set off an unfortunate “chain of events”
Ultimately, sympathy goes out the window when someone dies. They’d feel the exact same way if it were one of their family members.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:40 am to Powerman
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Including prosecuting them for crimes they didn't commit?
Was he or was he not prosecuted according to the law?
Was he not involved in a crime that led to the death of an innocent person?
If he never broke into cars leading to the high-speed chase in the first place would the innocent person still be alive?
Would you not agree that the person dying is a consequence of his criminal activities?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:40 am to Proximo
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clown
The underlying legal theory (conspiracy participant v. active participant) is exactly the same.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now do Trump's prosecution in GA.
Like your hero AgiHanktimonius, you SUCK at trying to think outside the box.
You are comparing apples to mufflers.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:41 am to Powerman
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And charged him with tax evasion and not murder right?
I want to say here that I do understand why you don't like this statute, and I don't think your opposition to it is unreasonable.
I disagree with you on the basis that I think someone causing the death of another innocent bystander has to carry some legal ramifications, even of they didn't mean to. They had intent to step far enough outside of society's acceptable bounds (thus the felony criteria) to attach guilt to for harming others IMO even if they didn't have specific intent to harm the innocent bystander, so I am o.k. with the concept.
Does it provide a really broad latitude that could be abused? Probably so. But I don't know what else to do about it. I'm not o.k. with people engaging in criminal behavior that ends up killing someone else and not having any repercussions for that person's loss of life.
I do agree that this law should be used to punish that circumstance and not as a substitute end-run around a law that you can't convict of.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:44 am to stout
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he never broke into cars leading to the high-speed chase in the first place would the innocent person still be alive?
Wasn’t it the friend who ran. It’s not unreasonable to think if he stayed home the friend would have still broken into the cars, got caught, ran and caused the accident.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:44 am to 4cubbies
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The precipitating offenses in this case: Sadik Baxter had searched five cars for stray cash before surrendering when cops appeared, and O’Brian Oakley, his twenty-six-year-old friend, had fled the scene, lost control of his car in a police chase, and killed the bicyclists. The prosecution charged both men with two counts of felony murder in the first degree.
Sounds like he FAFO
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:44 am to the808bass
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If two guys decide to rob cars and a neighbor steps outside and one of the guys shoots the neighbor, should both be charged? Or just the one who fired the shot? Where do you draw the lin
Reasonably, a line can drawn at being physically present when an unintentional death results. If someone is in police custody, I don’t see how an argument can be made that he caused the deaths of cyclists.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:45 am to oogabooga68
Look.
We have 4Cubbies and SFP defending Trump and condemning the police state.
Savor the moment.
We have 4Cubbies and SFP defending Trump and condemning the police state.
Savor the moment.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:46 am to Robin Masters
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It’s not unreasonable to think if he stayed home the friend would have still broken into the cars, got caught, ran and caused the accident.
I mean we can speculate all sort of "what ifs" but that doesn't negate the facts.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:46 am to TrueTiger
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We have 4Cubbies and SFP defending Trump and condemning the police state.
Savor the moment.
Except they will change their tune when the rubber meets the road and it ACTUALLY comes time to defend him...
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:47 am to 4cubbies
I can see the fallacy of the law in the way it affected the other person who had no intent to evade and kill anyone. I feel it is an injustice to put him under the same indictment as the one who fled by car and involved in killing the bicyclist's.
Which is the point of the article.
So what was your point of posting this with no commentary or opinion?
Which is the point of the article.
So what was your point of posting this with no commentary or opinion?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:47 am to stout
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What do you have to say about this scum being a career criminal?
I’m talking about his conviction of felony murder.
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Armed robbery and he was simply "pulling on door handles"
He wasn’t armed when he was arrested for pulling on door handles.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:48 am to stout
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I mean we can speculate all sort of "what ifs" but that doesn't negate the facts.
The fact is these thugs woke up that day with the intent of terrorizing law-abiding citizens.
Every bad thing that happened to and around them that day is A RESULT OF THAT DECISION.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:50 am to stout
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mean we can speculate all sort of "what ifs" but that doesn't negate the facts.
The point is he didn't kill anyone. It's an event that is based on too many random circumstances.
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