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Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:44 am to Harry Boutte
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The six members of Congress say they want to speak directly to members of the military and intelligence community. The Trump administration, they say, is pitting the military and intelligence services against the American people. Therefore, they say, members of the armed forces and intelligence officers must refuse the Trump administration’s “illegal orders.” But none of the six legislators identified any such “illegal orders,” so our military and intelligence personnel are left with the message from lawmakers—all of whom served either in the armed forces or as intelligence officers—that some or all of the Trump administration’s orders are or may be illegal. This is an invitation to insubordination. It strikes at the very heart of civilian control of the military and the integrity of the chains of command in the military and intelligence services.
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This video wasn’t made in a vacuum. Democrats and their media allies have spent the last five years or more describing Trump as an autocrat, a dictator, Hitler-like, and a threat to democracy. If you say something loud enough and often enough, some people, including in our military and intelligence services, may believe it. The assassin of Charlie Kirk and the would-be assassins of Trump probably believed it. And Trump hasn’t exactly made friends in the military-industrial complex and the deep state. In those environs, insubordination against the Trump administration may be viewed as a badge of honor.
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:49 am to RFK
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Well, they’re right you know…
I have never seen anything like what these clowns did before in my life. I served four years in the Marines and we were ALL taught all the time not to follow illegal orders. No need for these idiots to do it. There is also a chain of command in the military where you can go ask them for advice if you are not sure about following an order. The military might do some stuff wrong but this is something they do right.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:17 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Yes, but the implication from these people is that Trump is the threat and his orders should be ignored.
And that's what I've been trying to say all along and getting shat upon by the majority of the board for it.
They certainly did imply it and there's no doubt about that. But they never did just flat out say it in terms other than innuendo.
Neither Trump or anyone in his administration has issued even a single "illegal order" and that's all Trump needed to say. But he took the bait. And now the media has the advantage because the perception to the public-at-large thanks to the Narrative Control Apparatus is that Trump is calling for the heads of military officers "for refusing illegal orders".
Anyone could see this baited narrative forming from the very beginning of this story.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:21 am to udtiger
They were basically saying, "When we get back in power, we'll look back and determine if any of his orders were 'illegal', and then punish those who implemented those orders."
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:22 am to TigerAxeOK
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Anyone could see this baited narrative forming from the very beginning of this story.
all Trump had to do is agree with them and this goes away.
Its just rage bait. Nothing comes of it, but more victimhood.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:23 am to Harry Boutte
Put down the Kool Aid, Buddy. It's toxic.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:24 am to Harry Boutte
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None of you people want bipartisanship, why pretend?
It already exists though.
RINOs and Dems are the “bi-partisan” uniparty.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:24 am to udtiger
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as military doesn't have to follow illegal orders
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:24 am to TigerAxeOK
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Neither Trump or anyone in his administration has issued even a single "illegal order" and that's all Trump needed to say. But he took the bait. And now the media has the advantage because the perception to the public-at-large thanks to the Narrative Control Apparatus is that Trump is calling for the heads of military officers "for refusing illegal orders".
Anyone could see this baited narrative forming from the very beginning of this story.
100% correct here
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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100% correct here
Exactly. Trump can't help stepping on his own d*ck.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:33 am to TigerAxeOK
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Anyone could see this baited narrative forming from the very beginning of this story.
Which is why Trump should have taken the narrative out their hands by agreeing that military should refuse illegal orders.
They would have nothing left to come back with and he would control the issue.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:05 am to RFK
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Well, they’re right you know…
They're right that the military doesn't have to follow illegal orders, so they're half right.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
But, in your opinion, what was the intent of the "Seditious 6"?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 12:43 pm to SixthAndBarone
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As much as I can't stand them, they are correct. They specifically said "illegal" orders. They didn't give any examples of any illegal orders, but they didn't do anything wrong either.
Actually, they did. They inserted themselves into the chain of command and that is in effect interfering with it. And, that's against the law.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 12:45 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Yes, but the implication from these people is that Trump is the threat and his orders should be ignored.
Ok? I guess I don’t see what your point is unless you’re saying Trump is off limits for some reason?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 1:02 pm to JBlutarsky
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They inserted themselves into the chain of command and that is in effect interfering with it. And, that's against the law.
How did they insert themselves into the chain of command? They sure didn’t do it physically. We have free speech. Do you support the constitution?
What law did they break? Please tell us the law.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 1:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Ok? I guess I don’t see what your point is unless you’re saying Trump is off limits for some reason?
Do you agree that the intent of the 6 was to say that "Trump is a threat and his orders should be ignored" like the person you are responding to said?
Do you think they had a different intent? If so, what was it.
I asked SFP the same thing because we actually might have the same opinion. And, if we don't, understanding the premise might explain where the disagreement lies.
I think that's a much more fruitful discussion than "Is Trump off limits"?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 1:48 pm to SixthAndBarone
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How did they insert themselves into the chain of command?
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"They're following unlawful commands from Donald Trump. And if you're committing offenses and your defense is going to be 'I was just following orders' — You know, that didn't work out so well at Nuremberg."
“When the rule of law comes back into the light of day, that will have to be tackled. They'll have to be held accountable for those abuses."
Rest assured that this is all to troll Trump though.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 11/26/25 at 2:12 pm to udtiger
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