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Scanning unverified ballots multiple times

Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2569 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:02 pm
The event when they pulled out the suitcases from under the table and later can be seen at multiple stations scanning stacks of ballots multiple times, did anyone figure a way to stop this cheating? The machine/software should not let duplicate ballots through and counted.

- Will the observers get to stay this time, will they have law or judicial enforcement with them to stop getting kicked out?

- No Covid this time (at least not yet) so will observers get to sit close to monitor?

- Will cameras be at all drop boxes and at all the rooms/areas at polling stations where ballots are handled or counted?

- Can the voter rolls be looked at now and suits filed against Election officials for not keeping them updated?

- Can we get some Conservative Judges to do something to prevent states/bad actors from deleting election data after the election on penalty of prosecution.

I hope the new RNC people have teams looking at all of this. They got away with it last time so you know 100% they will try again.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16399 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:05 pm to
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- Will the observers get to stay this time, will they have law or judicial enforcement with them to stop getting kicked out? - No Covid this time (at least not yet) so will observers get to sit close to monitor? - Will cameras be at all drop boxes and at all the rooms/areas at polling stations where ballots are handled or counted? - Can the voter rolls be looked at now and suits filed against Election officials for not keeping them updated? - Can we get some Conservative Judges to do something to prevent states/bad actors from deleting election data after the election on penalty of prosecution.


Nothing will change. They will steal it again and nothing will happen.

2020 and 2022 could only happen with the cooperation of the RNC. If it was a true two party system the fraud would have never stood. We are slaves to the elites and politicians. It won’t change in 2024.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
3673 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:12 pm to
Trump is f’ed in Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Detroit and the like. There have been no changes in these metro areas.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7544 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:36 pm to
I don't see a good way to stop it.

This is why they want to separate the ballot from the envelope.

The entire process is insecure and non-auditable. There is more security in buying a pack of gum with your credit card at a gas station.

And as long as tabulator/scanner operators have the ability to override the errors on the machines they can send as many ballots through, as many times as they want.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16181 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 6:48 pm to
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Nothing will change. They will steal it again and nothing will happen.

2020 and 2022 could only happen with the cooperation of the RNC. If it was a true two party system the fraud would have never stood.


This is a man with wisdom.
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
1980 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 7:07 pm to
this man like the rest of you, are idiots, the Trump campaign hired Ken Block’s data firm to back up its 2020 election fraud claims, how did that work out.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14166 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 7:46 pm to
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And as long as tabulator/scanner operators have the ability to override the errors on the machines they can send as many ballots through, as many times as they want.


Ever heard of risk-limiting audits?
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7544 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:31 am to
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Ever heard of risk-limiting audits?


Once the “ballot” is separated from the envelope, the process is no longer auditable.

There is no way to tell a valid ballot from one made on a copy machine as far as the tabulator is concerned.

Once you add in little or no signature verification, the validity of each “ballot” is questionable.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
3673 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:44 am to
You act as if places like Atlanta and Philadelphia are trying to have verifiable and reliable elections. That is not the case.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:47 am to
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this man like the rest of you, are idiots, the Trump campaign hired Ken Block’s data firm to back up its 2020 election fraud claims, how did that work out.
I knew a guy in the military with the same attitude as you. His wife was a whore and humping everyone around. We tried to tell him, but he just wouldn't believe his own eyes. You can fool some of the people all the time.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29959 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:54 am to
All anyone has to do is go down the street and cast your vote. Maybe if it’s not too much trouble motivate others to do same if you know they’re a likely Republican voter and they don’t seem like they’re very interested in going to vote. That’s pretty much all folks are asked to go out of their way to do. Doesn’t seem like too much of a burden to shoulder.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:56 am to
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Doesn’t seem like too much of a burden to shoulder.
If you are too lazy to get up and go to the polls, you probably shouldn't vote.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18142 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:13 am to
Jyst scan 100 ballots 1,000 times while the RINOs cluelessly watch. Easy win every time. Who is going to stop them?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:39 am to
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Ever heard of risk-limiting audits?

You have the results of such audits to post for us?
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3031 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:15 am to
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Ever heard of risk-limiting audits?


Like the bogus RLA that Raffensperger ran in GA?

The same one that Philip Stark, the University of Cal–Berkeley statistics professor widely recognized as the creator of risk-limiting audits said was no risk-limiting audit, whatsoever?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67721 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:20 am to
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The entire process is insecure and non-auditable.


By design.

And there is only one reason to design a system that way.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19049 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:26 am to
quote:

The event when they pulled out the suitcases from under the table and later can be seen at multiple stations scanning stacks of ballots multiple times, did anyone figure a way to stop this cheating? The machine/software should not let duplicate ballots through and counted.



I always wondered why some citizen did not seek to press some kind of charge against these people and force them to explain it. Was this a "no standing" rule?

Also to the OP's point paper ballots should be marked with serial number like dollar bills and the numbers should be allocated to locations for tracking purposes.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34878 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:21 am to
It required a bloody revolution to Found the Constitutional Republic which is based on "inalienable God-given Rights" and which limited pure Democracy ("mob rule"). Obama lamented this as a Document of "negative liberties"; He's a Commie.

Albeit the Transnational Progressives (Obama/Hillary at the fore) believe that such a form is governance is no longer practical, or even morally superior, given the changing dynamics of our civilizational paradigm (High Tech at the fore). They seek to replace the competitive economic/social principle (Nature/Darwinian as well) for relative affluence (National and Personal) via "consumption and production" with the DEI principle. So as to undermine Humanities' march toward the traditional forms of warfare, which given High Tech, are now suicidal. DEI will have to be coerced via "whatever means necessary", though they hope to accomplish it via Cancel Culture and being cut off from the economic system, IF anyone dares to oppose or resist it.

Cheating is not seen as being 'unfair' in the above scenario, as the traditional alternative is open warfare. And they know that those who are in opposition to the above, know this as well, and are loathe to resist in the only means for redress to said 'cheating', such being a bloody and painful dogfight.

IMO, the real basis for all division and conflict is ultimately Spiritual. So to imagine the near future, jus read the Book of Revelation, or most any Mono-Theist Religion for that matter. This Movement (Transnational Progressive) will not be stopped, and will get its chance to rule the World by force as opposed to Truth. Of course, as well know, 'Truth' is subjective and in the eye of the beholder. At least until the ultimate Truth "appears in the clouds", and "every knee will bow" (in agreement).

It's coming. Humanity has one more great lesson to learn. Such being that we can't handle great power and rule ourselves without visionary help from 'Above', as dominance from 'Below' is too powerful for our limited abilities to overcome. Be glad or be fearful, or both. Lord have mercy on them who love.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2297 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:31 am to
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I always wondered why some citizen did not seek to press some kind of charge against these people and force them to explain it. Was this a "no standing" rule?


This event was investigated fully by the GBI, with assistance from the FBI. Their report is available online.

The Trump-appointed US attorney for the Northern District of Georgia looked at all of the evidence and informed Trump there was nothing to prosecute. He was forced to resign, and was replaced by the Trump-appointed US Attorney for the Southern District. The second attorney also reported there was nothing to prosecute, but by then it was Jan. 6.

So, exactly what was some citizen group supposed to do at that point? All you have is evidence of NO fraud. Really hard to convince a court to do anything under those circumstances.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:34 am to
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All you have is evidence of NO fraud.



Lol. Gaslighting jagoff.
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