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re: Scanning unverified ballots multiple times

Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:39 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:39 am to
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So, exactly what was some citizen group supposed to do at that point? All you have is evidence of NO fraud. Really hard to convince a court to do anything under those circumstances.



And Hunter's Laptop was "Russian disinformation" as presented by the same people that you reference above who determined "NO fraud".

"behold, I will give them the spirit of blindness, eyes that they cannot see and ears that they cannot hear". This Forum is not totally blind, so attempts to buck up the idea that the {naked) "Emperor has no clothes", will not cut it.

But to each their own. Live and learn.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34975 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:42 am to
Apologies offered. I will attempt to reread and correct the misspelling in my posts, as I am inclined to shoot from the hip. Not that most care anyway.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6988 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:44 am to


Trump hired two separate firms to investigate voter fraud. The result was disastrous for Trump and his many claims.

quote:

“No substantive voter fraud was uncovered in my investigations looking for it, nor was I able to confirm any of the outside claims of voter fraud that I was asked to look at,” he told the Post. “Every fraud claim I was asked to investigate was false.”
Block said he recently met with special counsel Jack Smith, the federal investigator into Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Campaign finance records show the campaign paid Block’s firm about $750,000, starting just days after the election.
A similar firm, Berkeley Research Group, was hired by the Trump campaign to investigate fraud claims. Like Simpatico, Berkeley did not find evidence of fraud or that the election was stolen.



LINK
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10150 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:50 am to
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the federal investigator into Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:08 am to
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This Forum is not totally blind, so attempts to buck up the idea that the {naked) "Emperor has no clothes", will not cut it.


But this forum clings dearly to the idea that their naked Emporer is wearing beautiful clothes.

If you want to believe the GBI, FBI, and previously faithful US Attorneys are all part of a conspiracy, then go right ahead.

But the question was why has no one "brought charges against these people and forced them to explain it?" I provided the answer. The entire event has already been investigated and the explanations provided and found to be credible and not chargeable. How is anyone going to convince a court to re-open the issue?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 10:45 am to
Bottom line is no evidence or lack of evidence is enough for the posters here. They believe their is fraud, have seen less than all the investigators trying to prove it for them and won't have their mind changed. They rely on media reports and confirmation bias internet articles to support themselves.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20029 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:14 am to
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This event was investigated fully by the GBI, with assistance from the FBI. Their report is available online.


I’ve read it multiple times and have had this back and forth with you. “Investigated Fully” is a matter of opinion. What the investigation uncovered was simply 1. The people there doing the counting were told to stay after the media and watchers left, 2. The poll watchers were not told specifically to leave 3. The storage practices of the ballots was normal and appropriate

They were not concerned at all with:

1. Who told everyone to leave? (It was Rubys daughter, but in her interview downplayed that it was indeed her). Ruby said it was a “management decision” to pack up and continue the next day (her daughter was the manger, as per her boss). So was that decision to resume the next day communicated to the media and poll watchers?

2. Why was Ruby still there, and why did she so frantically participate in a job she was not assigned to (in which she acknowledged that all other temporary workers were dismissed)?

3. The comment Ruby’s daughter made about RELYING on her mother being there because of her experience and knowing how to diagnose problems, despite the fact that it was established in the report that ruby’s daughter WAS IN CHARGE of the entire operation.

4. Rubys daughter said the election chief came and explained that the job wasn’t done, so they resumed. Others said the same. But the election chief, and video footage shows that he took a call 10 minutes later which sparked the directive to continue counting. The elections director confirmed he made the call and said to count EVERYTHING, not just what was already opened.

5. They broke the seals of the ballot boxes because they had to count everything there (or every envelope that had been opened, it’s unclear). They were sealed specifically to resume the next day, but each witness said they had to put them back up in a similar manner, sealing them when they actually finished and departed.

6. Why were they not transparent with the poll watchers about what was left to be completed?

or finally simply asking the question:

Was it appropriate to continue counting, after acknowledging that the media had already announced counting had concluded and watchers were not present? They said they called workers back, but did not call the media.

Oh, and Why did Ruby hire Hunter Biden’s defense attorney, who was part of the Biden transition team? Go read her interview again, she says nothing and asks for a lawyer.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20029 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:27 am to
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Bottom line is no evidence or lack of evidence is enough for the posters here. They believe their is fraud, have seen less than all the investigators trying to prove it for them and won't have their mind changed.


That’s how fraud works, and a how a credible system works. If people don’t believe in a system, that relies on trust and good faith, that system is flawed. If there are no mitigating controls to stop or limit fraud, why would anyone believe in it?

Democrats push for these systems, they are inherently not auditable. No, you can’t prove that a mail-in ballot was NOT cast by the registered voter. But you can’t prove that it was either. People don’t need proof of fraud if there are no guard rails to prevent it. The control failure is all that matters.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20029 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:47 am to
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If you want to believe the GBI, FBI, and previously faithful US Attorneys are all part of a conspiracy, then go right ahead.


Do you want to believe government employees, or people trained to audit and opine on control systems? Because nobody in the latter group thinks the most liberal election systems operate in adequate control environments. The risk of fraud is all that matters. Go read your report again. At the end of Jones interview, he acknowledges that a human’s judgement is necessary to not scan ballots twice. The only control on that is that the public has the right to be present.

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But the question was why has no one "brought charges against these people and forced them to explain it?" I provided the answer. The entire event has already been investigated and the explanations provided and found to be credible and not chargeable. How is anyone going to convince a court to re-open the issue?


You are correct that the investigation makes it hard to take further legal action, it clearly worked on you. I don’t personally find anything credible about it at all.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
3882 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:57 am to
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By design. And there is only one reason to design a system that way.

In cities like Atlanta, Detroit, and Philadelphia they are going to do whatever they want and no one will tell them shite. The Democrats control every apparatus in those cities. They can absolutely cheat or make up whatever methods of counting votes they want. They have notoriously been know for shady elections in the past.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 12:00 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64088 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Atlanta


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There have been no changes in these metro areas.



Do you even Jim Eagle bro?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14226 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:48 pm to
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The same one that Philip Stark, the University of Cal–Berkeley statistics professor widely recognized as the creator of risk-limiting audits said was no risk-limiting audit, whatsoever?


How about a link?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60234 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:58 pm to
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but by then it was Jan. 6.

Just another Wedesday, baw .
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2322 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:12 pm to
You are either completely ignorant or avoiding what common sense should provide you. I would guess you are a flat earther by your ignorance. A grade school child can common sense wise see what happened. Why would any reasonable person with a iq above 40 say yeah they brought in 100s of lawyers to keep the examination of the ballots to be halted? If it’s all on the up and up why fight is it so hard? You know why and it is pitiful that someone would root for election transparency to be fought so heavily if the election was legit. You are a fraud and everyone here sees that. Congrats at being so dense and against a democratic republic.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 8:16 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14226 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:48 pm to
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Lol. Gaslighting jagoff.

Another airheaded, useless post.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2322 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:51 pm to
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Another airheaded, useless post.


The irony is thick and hilarious.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68331 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:58 pm to
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exactly what was some citizen group supposed to do at that point? All you have is evidence of NO fraud. Really hard to convince a court to do anything under those circumstances.


Amd yet, to this day, all the ballots in question are under lock amd key and nobody is allowed to look at them
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14226 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:06 pm to
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The irony is thick and hilarious.

What's funny is your lack of understanding of the meaning of the word irony.

Why don't you explain why what I posted is ironic to confirm your ignorance?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45815 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:28 pm to
Perhaps hidden cameras to record the cheat
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19080 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:12 am to
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This event was investigated fully by the GBI, with assistance from the FBI. Their report is available online.


I never saw an explanation of the video of poll workers sending the observers home for the night due to a “water leak” at the vote counting center and then pulling racks of ballots out and running them through the tabulators over and over. If there was an explanation I did not see it.

The only thing that I did see was Ruby Freeman talking about it in a very negative way (i.e. illegal) and evidently that got put aside since she won her massive judgement against Giulliani.
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