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Sam Altman: We see the future where intelligence is a utility like electric or water and

Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:15 pm
Are we going to be charged for all these data centers?

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Step 1: Scrape the entire internet. Every book, every article, every conversation, every piece of art, every forum post. Do it without asking. Do it without paying.

Step 2: Train a model on all of it. Call it "artificial intelligence."

Step 3: Go to BlackRock's Infrastructure Summit and announce: "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter."

Step 3 is where you sell people's own knowledge back to them. On a meter.

They took the collective output of human thought, compressed it into a model, and now they want to charge you by the token to access a version of what you and everyone you know already created.

One Reddit user put it perfectly: "They stole all this data from us, the people, our life's work, creativity, art, by devouring the internet and blowing through all copyright laws. Now they want to sell it back to us in the form of a utility."

Imagine if someone photocopied every book in the public library, burned the library down, and then opened a subscription service for the copies.

That's the metered intelligence business model.

And they're pitching it to infrastructure investors as though they invented water.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97168 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:18 pm to
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One Reddit user put it perfectly: "They stole all this data from us, the people, our life's work, creativity, art, by devouring the internet and blowing through all copyright laws. Now they want to sell it back to us in the form of a utility."

Imagine if someone photocopied every book in the public library, burned the library down, and then opened a subscription service for the copies.


Kinda true
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32768 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:20 pm to
Gonna be cheaper just to educate humans.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477479 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:24 pm to
Space X and their space data centers + merging with X and Tesla is going to make such a large company
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75322 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:25 pm to
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They stole all this data from us, the people, our life's work, creativity, art, by devouring the internet and blowing through all copyright laws. Now they want to sell it back to us in the form of a utility."

Now, imagine all IP laws being abolished. Only those people with enough money will be able to defend "their" intellectual property.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10661 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Step 1: Scrape the entire internet. Every book, every article, every conversation, every piece of art, every forum post. Do it without asking. Do it without paying.

Step 2: Train a model on all of it. Call it "artificial intelligence."

Step 3: Go to BlackRock's Infrastructure Summit and announce: "We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water, and people buy it from us on a meter."

Step 3 is where you sell people's own knowledge back to them. On a meter.

They took the collective output of human thought, compressed it into a model, and now they want to charge you by the token to access a version of what you and everyone you know already created.

One Reddit user put it perfectly: "They stole all this data from us, the people, our life's work, creativity, art, by devouring the internet and blowing through all copyright laws. Now they want to sell it back to us in the form of a utility."

Imagine if someone photocopied every book in the public library, burned the library down, and then opened a subscription service for the copies.

That's the metered intelligence business model.

And they're pitching it to infrastructure investors as though they invented water.


This is, to a large degree, true. Most of the large Tech companies did ignore all forms of copyright in order to train their models. Zuck was sued for this on Meta.

What I find ironic is if you ask it to quote a poem, line from a movie, lyrics from a song -- LLM's increasingly hedge the request... enforcing copyright now, and it's getting worse.

Add to it the increasing cost (because everyone is using the services) and you will end up soon with the have's ... and the have nots.

I'm going to really love when Democrats' agenda means all subsidized housing needs free access to Chat-GPT.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55728 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:25 pm to
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Kinda true

No it’s not true. We still have access to that data just as we did before. What they are offering is an expanded access that is awesome.

Yesterday I fed all of my medical data into chatGPT and explored some issues around aging and what techniques are available to slow it without running too great of a risk. Sure that knowledge was out there, but where? And how would I have accessed it? I would have had to meet with 4 or 5 specialists. It would have taken weeks. I did it in 30 minutes and got better answers than I was likely to get the other way. That is well worth paying for.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3978 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:26 pm to
The problem is, currently the people in place to put up guardrails/laws around this from happening are all the politicians bought and paid for by the investors…or are major investors themselves.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20913 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:27 pm to
It’s not hard to see a dystopian world where 50 years from now humans complete reliance on being connected to the internet contributes to some sort of societal collapse. There are a lot of things you can point to and say it’s already happening.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63979 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:28 pm to
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No it’s not true. We still have access to that data just as we did before. What they are offering is an expanded access that is awesome.



You have such odd takes sometimes.

The issue was how a lot of these LLMs were initially trained. Yes, many absolutely relied on copyrighted materials.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23806 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:30 pm to
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I would have had to meet with 4 or 5 specialists.


If you have issues needing treatment of 4-5 specialists, I promise AI is not gonna fix you.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75322 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:37 pm to
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The issue was how a lot of these LLMs were initially trained. Yes, many absolutely relied on copyrighted materials.

Well, yeah. There's a reason Elon changed the Twitter user agreement to essentially give X a right to use anything posted by users in perpetuity. That's in the fine print, giving X a non-exclusive right to the content that lasts forever. He then had Grok developed to mine that data/content continuously.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63979 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:40 pm to
That’s different though.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:46 pm to
Not sure how this is different from what college libraries do.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:47 pm to
Artificial intelligence
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173903 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Not sure how this is different from what college libraries do

It's completely different and not even in the same category.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2436 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Kinda true


I do not understand the burning down the library part? Has anyone done or proposed anything remotely like that?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8608 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Artificial intelligence


We need actual intelligence...and not dolled out forcefully at a cost that will be raised over time just like utilities...and biased to boot.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65939 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:58 pm to
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It's completely different and not even in the same category.


Completely disagree. Go try to access a college library's online collection for free.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173903 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:05 pm to
Both libraries and AI can be used as research tools and neither are completely free

The difference is AI is under the control of the most powerful private corporations that the world has ever seen and seek to commodify everything about your mind. Your data is the most valuable commodity on earth. A University library isn't trying to surveil and document everything about your life. These tech companies are and you could make a coherent argument that they have become far too powerful for the good of society.
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