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re: Russia’s top diplomat says Zelensky can’t sign Ukraine war peace deal he’s ‘illegitimate’
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:14 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:14 pm to cajunangelle
Is this war being fought with WWI era equipment and strategies? Is there an Air Force involved? I can’t comprehend why the front lines move inches at time.
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:17 pm to deltaland
What was the name of the oligarch Hunter was tied in with that made the butcher of Baghdad look tame, as he burnt people alive in barrels?
Glenn Beck chalk boarded him.
Glenn Beck chalk boarded him.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:18 pm to cajunangelle
To me it sounds like Putin has found an excuse to not meet with nor negotiate a peace agreement with Zelensky.
"I can't negotiate with an illegitimate leader like Zelensky. It would be a waste of time."
I wonder why he didn't tell President Trump that when they met in Alaska?
"I can't negotiate with an illegitimate leader like Zelensky. It would be a waste of time."
I wonder why he didn't tell President Trump that when they met in Alaska?
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:19 pm to bamalee
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India, does not trade with us, hardly
Stop student visas and Work visas and you will get their attention…..
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:20 pm to Tigergreg
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but Trump is about to drop the hammer and it isn't going to be pretty. Putin knows he will do it and he's dicked around one too many times.
Maybe. Trump is in a no win situation here. It’s obvious sanctions won’t deter Russia. It’s obvious neither side will fold. This isn’t an Iran type of situation where we can directly hit Russia due to threat of nuclear escalation. Iran doesn’t have the ability to hit us, Russia does. The American people have no appetite for a conventional war. We can’t afford to keep supplying Ukraine weapons it’s pointless because they lack manpower.
Our options are walk away or boots on ground.
Question is if we chose boots on ground would it call Putins bluff and he back down or is he willing to escalate further and use nukes knowing Russia would also be destroyed?
Trump could privately meet with members of Congress and tell them to hold a vote to declare war. Make a show of it. It may make Putin agree to peace before the vote is held. If not, just make sure there’s enough no votes to shoot it down. Then walk away from it all and say “we tried all options”
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:27 pm to deltaland
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Question is if we chose boots on ground would it call Putins bluff and he back down or is he willing to escalate further and use nukes knowing Russia would also be destroyed?
Trump will not put boots on the ground. Period.
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Trump could privately meet with members of Congress and tell them to hold a vote to declare war. Make a show of it. It may make Putin agree to peace before the vote is held. If not, just make sure there’s enough no votes to shoot it down. Then walk away from it all and say “we tried all options”
You do not threaten we unless you intend to follow through. It is not a bluff option.
Again, Trump will not commit US troops. He will amp up trade restrictions goin to 3rd party tariffs.
Bottom line is this war won’t end until Russia says they are done or there is no Ukraine left……
Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:36 pm to Tigergreg
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Is this Russia's way to keep the war going? This is becoming a clown show. What does Russia want to do?
Yes. Russia has never been interested in “peace.” They offer platitudes to appease/divide the West, but with Russia you have to look to their actions. And their actions say they aren’t interested in peace.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:01 pm to Tigergreg
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Is this Russia's way to keep the war going? This is becoming a clown show. What does Russia want to do?
This has been Russia stance for a very long term. Russia does not want to sign a peace deal and then have it ruled invalid after the fact. This is not new. Zelenskyy doesn't want elections because he knows he would lose.
This issue could have been solved a year ago or more. But Zelensky refuses. EU is the ones responsible for the war not ending years ago.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:07 pm to cajunangelle
When is Trump going to lower the hammer on these fricking retards? Someone has got to end this madness by Putin. This is ridiculous.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:09 pm to cajunangelle
And there you have it......a convenient "out" for Putin and Russia.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:13 pm to LegendInMyMind
the little nazi is illegitimate. He is a puppet whose strings are pulled by the euro elite .
Trump will take a walk from this mess because there is no leadership in Europe
Trump will take a walk from this mess because there is no leadership in Europe
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:44 pm to tide06
Tariffs on their customers for oil and gas may hit ole Putin’s pocketbook.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:49 pm to Branson
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See cajunangelles post below yours. It is a pretty good description
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Look for: Victoria Nuland, John McCain, Obama, Biden, most of the establishment of both parties, and other USA NGO's, politicos: below... That installed Zelensky:
It is not. She seems to be mistaken that Zelensky was put in power in 2014. He beat that guy in an election in....2019.
If there was a Western coup in 2014, Zelensky is the guy who ended it in 2019. He has nothing to do with Yanukovych pulling the plug on EU integration at the 11th hour, Yanukovych agreeing to a bad/unpopular trade agreement with Russia in its place of EU integration, Maidan, the Ukrainian Parliament taking action against Yanukovych, etc. Nothing.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 7:42 pm to cajunangelle
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard from Sergei Lavrov.
He lies whenever he speaks, but it’s just become so embarrassing at this point.
The USA needs to laugh in this guys face like other parts of the world do when he spouts his nonsense.
He lies whenever he speaks, but it’s just become so embarrassing at this point.
The USA needs to laugh in this guys face like other parts of the world do when he spouts his nonsense.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 7:44 pm to cajunangelle
Russia knows the rogue CIA is controlling Ukraine and the actions. No point in dealing with and installed puppet when that’s not who is calling the shots. Find the fricker in the cia that’s running this shite show and drag his arse in front of Putin.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 7:45 pm to TigerB8
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the rogue CIA is controlling Ukraine and the actions. No point in dealing with and installed puppet
Oh boy
Posted on 8/24/25 at 8:22 pm to TigerB8
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Russia knows the rogue CIA is controlling Ukraine and the actions. No point in dealing with and installed puppet when that’s not who is calling the shots. Find the fricker in the cia that’s running this shite show and drag his arse in front of Putin.
How much more time do you want to spend finding the secret CIA person?
As if that actually matters. Because what would happen next - Putin is going to negotiate a peace deal with the CIA? ROFL.
No. We don’t need more fake/hidden boogeymen to blame in order to hold up the peace process.
This is the brilliant kind of thinking that would keep the war going on forever.
If you’re not a paid Russian troll, then you might as well be.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 8/24/25 at 8:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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Russia’s top diplomat says Zelensky can’t sign Ukraine war peace deal he’s ‘illegitimate’
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This has been Russia’s position since 2014.
Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:03 pm to northshorebamaman
These people think Z took over in 2014 
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