re: Russia on verge of biggest gain in Ukraine since summer

quote:

---

Not really, but I expect the smarter among us not to participate.

---

Man, this would be happening whether people supported it or not. This is just humans being humans.

quote:

---

People bitch about the status quo, but keep defending it.

---

On the whole, I like the status quo. I'd rather be American than any other nationality. It's better to be in the core of the empire than at the periphery.

quote:

---

which again is mediated by Turkey.

---

How did Turkey get this privilege?

quote:

---

unless Russia itself integrates with Europe proper,

---

I don’t see this happening as long as Putin has a pulse. What do you think will happen to him at the end of this?

quote:

---

People bitch about the status quo, but keep defending it.


Who is defending it?

---

Go gander over at the OT Russia-Ukraine thread. Its a cheerleader convention.

Those Ukraine bros think we haven't paid Zelensky enough money yet.

Lol a man can do several things at once, groomer.

quote:

---

Russia on verge of biggest gain in Ukraine since summer

---

quote:

---

Zelensky should have crafted a peace deal when he had a chance.

---

The OP ITT is one of the biggest indictments of Russia's military ability in Ukraine that I have seen on this forum. The fact that Russia's greatest potential gain in 6 months is a tiny little town that milbloggers from both sides, MSM, Russian State TV and military experts have been scratching their heads trying to understand the significance of is pathetic. This glee from those who, for whatever reason, want Russia to prevail comes less than 36 hours after Putin demoted Sergei Surovikin "General Armageddon" from the position of the head of the Ukrainian forces as a result of continued battlefield failures over the last 3 months.

Prigozhin's merry band of convicts may finally get the feather in their cap. It is rather telling when a PMC is what gets the feather and not the might of the Russian army and that feather is a bombed-out town when the last feather the Russians lost was Kherson.

This is what all the fuss is about:

quote:

---

Do you know what document I'm referring to?

---

A document that says 'NATO does not consider Russia an adversary.' A proposition which NATO subsequently broke in 2000.

A document that says, "NATO and Russia will cooperate to prevent any possibility of returning to a Europe of division and confrontation, or the isolation of any state." NATO subsequently shredded that proposition in 2008.

Russia publicly noted those issues on several occasions.

In fact, over his first decade in office and citing RNFA language, Putin meticulously established NATO as untrustworthy, and that its early agreements with the Russian Federation were not worth the paper they were printed on. As with the Georgian War, if NATO accordance with Founding Act principles over the first 15 years was reviewed in a neutral international proceeding, Russia would win that case 100 out of 100 times.


As I said, think for yourself!
You are far brighter than the sources you seem to rely on for information.

quote:

---

it seemed like a war with Russia was happening regardless of our involvement though.

---

Negative.

Without NATO and US meddling there would be no war in Ukraine. Without NATO and US meddling, Crimea would still be under Ukrainian control.

quote:

---

If Zelensky was smart he would have gave Putin assurances more than a year ago that he would not join NATO going forward and maybe form a relationship with Russia so they can live in peace.

---

Trust the Russian Bear?

LOL!

quote:

---

Trust the Russian Bear?

LOL!

---

The alternative, trusting the Western Empire in a war to preserve the West's vanity, isn't getting them much further as their frontiers are torn apart by networks of trenches.