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Rumors that the White House may ban short selling on bank stocks today

Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:27 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:27 am
Presumably to stop the rapid collapse of regional banks.

Any of you ever seen this happen before? Maybe 2008/2009?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167317 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:32 am to
They should raise FDIC deposit limits up from $250K or offer additional insurance that can be purchased by people that have millions plus.

That would calm people and keep bank runs from happening
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:34 am to
They threatened it in 2009 but I think maybe only Europe went through with it, IIRC
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10475 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:36 am to
They can't. It's commerce.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12350 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:41 am to
The fed is on the verge of inadvertently collapsing the regional banking industry all the while strengthening the grip of national banks. The conspiracy answer…either they’re being played or bought by the big banks …… or they are back ending there centralized currency..

Of course it could be just a natural ebb of our capitalistic banking industry.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9194 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:42 am to
There are some really good videos on Youtube talking and explaining short and naked short selling. It's a scam the largest trading institutions do often. It's cheating and is responsible for ruining companies for nothing more than those greedy bastards to turn profit. There are already rules/laws but they do it anyway.
I don't think Congress will do anything more than talk about it or form a committee and take no action, certainly Wall Street has a strong lobby on Capital Hill.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61289 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:43 am to
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or they are back ending there centralized currency..



This is the answer. Everything is slowly being centralized, people are slowly being forced into big cities, into smaller living spaces, fewer cars to travel/live where you want, and they want the few people that do have cars to be under the control of the government (EV's are not about the environment, they're being pushed for centralized control).
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:43 am to
either short selling helps with price discovery and is a useful tool in a free market or it’s not. Carving out exemptions for certain sectors sounds ethically incoherent.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 7:46 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57296 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:45 am to
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They should raise FDIC deposit limits up from $250K or offer additional insurance that can be purchased by people that have millions plus.

That would calm people and keep bank runs from happening
Simple easy and cheap. Three things government hates.

What’s the use of having an “emergency” if it doesn’t give government any new power?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:47 am to
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inadvertently


Oh…I wouldn’t say that.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6572 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:50 am to
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Oh…I wouldn’t say that


Was thinking the same thing
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8154 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:52 am to
They prevented it in 08.

I made over 480% profits in my WAL puts yest
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15732 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Presumably to stop the rapid collapse of regional banks.

Any of you ever seen this happen before? Maybe 2008/2009?


I’d love to know how they legally plan to do this.

The SEC banned naked shorts during the financial crisis, but regular shorting was still allowed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:03 am to
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The fed is on the verge of inadvertently collapsing the regional banking industry all the while strengthening the grip of national banks. The conspiracy answer…either they’re being played or bought by the big banks …… or they are back ending there centralized currency..

I think it's more incompetence and politics.

We were already inflating the post-2008 crash economy and then Covid sent that into hyperdrive. The economic restrictions and trillions printed/spent by Trump, et al, created massive inflation...which was not politically convenient to admit until it became rampant inflation, because trillions were to be printed/spent by Biden, et al.

Bad policy to avoid the natural deflation of over-inflated assets post-2008 created a long-term finance strategy ripe with issues. A Black Swan event completely threw a wrench into their plans, which led to policy that mad the (formerly prudent) long-term strategies short-term insanity.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21259 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:03 am to
What authority does a President have to do this?

Obviously declaring some emergency order gives them power they make up in the mind, shy of that though? Is there something that gives the President the right?

Edit - I would be completely OK with banning short sales though.
This post was edited on 5/5/23 at 8:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:04 am to
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Simple easy and cheap. Three things government hates.

Also would likely be called inequitable.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95789 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:04 am to
Yeah, this isn’t going to distort the market at all…

Say “Banks are fricked” without saying “banks are fricked.”
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:05 am to
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ban short selling on bank stocks today
How would that be legal?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95789 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:06 am to
I’m fine with banning all short sales. Let the GameStop shorters have to cover their positions.

Banning them on one specific industry is a huge problem IMHO.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 8:07 am to
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Yeah, this isn’t going to distort the market at all…

This is the pro-inflationary policy the Fed has been pushing since 2008. They really, REALLY fear assets being priced correctly, especially housing.
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