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Requiring employees to clock in

Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3645 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:32 pm
I remember there being a court case where it required employees making over / under a certain amount to clock in.

Was that over turned? Is anyone familiar with this requirement?

Thanks.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52972 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

I remember there being a court case where it required employees making over / under a certain amount to clock in.


I doubt that is true. It may have been a case where a certain company was sued for making employees clock in.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5944 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:44 pm to
If you aren’t salaried, how are hours tracked if employees don’t clock in?
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12736 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:49 pm to
Obama pushed a thing that everyone on salary making less then a certain amount would still get OT. But I believe it didn’t get finalized. The place I worked for at the time changed job titles and the works ended up making less money or were let go .
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3645 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:10 pm to
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If you aren’t salaried, how are hours tracked if employees don’t clock in?


Most folks are salary. I think it has something to do with exempt / non exempt.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
164919 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:12 pm to
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But I believe it didn’t get finalized

Pretty sure it did sometime around 2015 but I could be wrong

I know the company I worked for at the time made some changes about how they compensate people because of it
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
6684 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:48 pm to
In the middle of the woke bullshite someone came up with a slavery audit and all the companies bought into. One outcome of the audit was that catering companies using Asian labor globally might be underpaying. We got asked to install a network connected clock for them to use to clock in. That’s as much as I know.
Posted by Alabama Slim
2009,2011 BCS National Champions
Member since Jul 2007
10394 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:03 pm to
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Obama pushed a thing that everyone on salary making less then a certain amount would still get OT. But I believe it didn’t get finalized


Correct answer.

It wasn't bad legislation. Anyone making under 48k a year would be qualified for ot regardless of hourly or salary. It was reversed by a court a few weeks before taking effect. Most companies had already bumped employees close to the 48k threshold above 48 to comply anyway.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
10589 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Anyone making under 48k a year would be qualified for ot regardless of hourly or salary.

What was his reasoning for this nonsense? As in... where did he arbitrarily come up with 48K? And what was to stop them from later changing it to 60K and 70K and so on, depending on the votes they were trying to buy?
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Alabama Slim
2009,2011 BCS National Champions
Member since Jul 2007
10394 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:11 pm to
To stop employers from designation an employee salaried at 32k just to get out of paying overtime. The problem is it was a federal law. So 47k a year in California or new york probably needs overtime while 47k a year in the south in 2015 was a decent salary.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25438 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:16 pm to
It's happening right now. Biden law that says anyone full time making less than $37K gets time and a half for overtime. Clocking in is the only way they can track it.

Going up to $54K in January I believe. Might have to check me on the amounts
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25438 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:17 pm to
It's giving dumb.. Don't get me wrong. Hope Trump throws that shite out
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188506 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:21 pm to
I'm wondering what is prompting all this noise about how other people earn a living and where they do it from its coming from

I get that during COVID people weren't going into the office but if their companies haven't called them back yet why does anybody care
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12039 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:23 pm to
In addition to a pay threshold didnt it also audit for job tasks - supervision of others and stuff like that

Essentially a bunch of employees making $30k a year for line level workers were getting screwed out of OT covering shifts for their peers
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12039 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:24 pm to
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Going up to $54K in January I believe. Might have to check me on the amounts


Wholly uneducated on it but surprised it’s not pegged to local COL indexes or wage indexes
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22953 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:26 pm to
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If you aren’t salaried, how are hours tracked if employees don’t clock in?


They typically aren't. You can get in a frick ton of trouble with the Wage and Hour division of the DOL if you do something stupid like that.

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25438 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:28 pm to
Here's what Dept of Labor said. Looks like Texas courts struck it down though (I missed it sorry)

quote:

The previous rule would have made millions of employees nonexempt from overtime pay. The rule would have increased the salary threshold from $35,568 to $43,888 per year on July 1, 2024, and then to $58,656 per year on January 1, 2025. The rule would have also included automatic increases every three years starting in 2027. 

To be exempt from overtime pay, workers must meet certain job duties and be paid at least the salary threshold. Some occupations and job duties that are exempt from overtime pay include: 

Commissioned sales employees

Computer professionals

Drivers, driver's helpers, loaders, and mechanics

Farmworkers on small farms

Seasonal and recreational establishments


Posted by LSUlove
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
572 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:14 am to
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Most folks are salary. I think it has something to do with exempt / non exempt.


You are an idiot. 75% of this country are not salaried employees.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57716 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:51 am to
quote:

I remember there being a court case where it required employees making over / under a certain amount to clock in.

Was that over turned? Is anyone familiar with this requirement?

Thanks.


Not sure what you're talking about, but if you're required to be at work during specific hours every day then labor laws consider you an hourly worker who should be overtime eligible.

Obviously there's more to it than that, but that's the only thing I can think of that sounds remotely close to what you're asking.
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