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Requiring employees to clock in
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:32 pm
I remember there being a court case where it required employees making over / under a certain amount to clock in.
Was that over turned? Is anyone familiar with this requirement?
Thanks.
Was that over turned? Is anyone familiar with this requirement?
Thanks.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:34 pm to Kreg Jennings
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I remember there being a court case where it required employees making over / under a certain amount to clock in.
I doubt that is true. It may have been a case where a certain company was sued for making employees clock in.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:44 pm to Kreg Jennings
If you aren’t salaried, how are hours tracked if employees don’t clock in?
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:49 pm to Kreg Jennings
Obama pushed a thing that everyone on salary making less then a certain amount would still get OT. But I believe it didn’t get finalized. The place I worked for at the time changed job titles and the works ended up making less money or were let go .
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:10 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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If you aren’t salaried, how are hours tracked if employees don’t clock in?
Most folks are salary. I think it has something to do with exempt / non exempt.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:12 pm to tjv305
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But I believe it didn’t get finalized
Pretty sure it did sometime around 2015 but I could be wrong
I know the company I worked for at the time made some changes about how they compensate people because of it
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:48 pm to Kreg Jennings
In the middle of the woke bullshite someone came up with a slavery audit and all the companies bought into. One outcome of the audit was that catering companies using Asian labor globally might be underpaying. We got asked to install a network connected clock for them to use to clock in. That’s as much as I know.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:03 pm to tjv305
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Obama pushed a thing that everyone on salary making less then a certain amount would still get OT. But I believe it didn’t get finalized
Correct answer.
It wasn't bad legislation. Anyone making under 48k a year would be qualified for ot regardless of hourly or salary. It was reversed by a court a few weeks before taking effect. Most companies had already bumped employees close to the 48k threshold above 48 to comply anyway.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:06 pm to Alabama Slim
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Anyone making under 48k a year would be qualified for ot regardless of hourly or salary.
What was his reasoning for this nonsense? As in... where did he arbitrarily come up with 48K? And what was to stop them from later changing it to 60K and 70K and so on, depending on the votes they were trying to buy?
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:11 pm to MemphisGuy
To stop employers from designation an employee salaried at 32k just to get out of paying overtime. The problem is it was a federal law. So 47k a year in California or new york probably needs overtime while 47k a year in the south in 2015 was a decent salary.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:16 pm to Kreg Jennings
It's happening right now. Biden law that says anyone full time making less than $37K gets time and a half for overtime. Clocking in is the only way they can track it.
Going up to $54K in January I believe. Might have to check me on the amounts
Going up to $54K in January I believe. Might have to check me on the amounts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:17 pm to PaperTiger
It's giving dumb.. Don't get me wrong. Hope Trump throws that shite out
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:21 pm to Kreg Jennings
I'm wondering what is prompting all this noise about how other people earn a living and where they do it from its coming from
I get that during COVID people weren't going into the office but if their companies haven't called them back yet why does anybody care
I get that during COVID people weren't going into the office but if their companies haven't called them back yet why does anybody care
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:23 pm to Alabama Slim
In addition to a pay threshold didnt it also audit for job tasks - supervision of others and stuff like that
Essentially a bunch of employees making $30k a year for line level workers were getting screwed out of OT covering shifts for their peers
Essentially a bunch of employees making $30k a year for line level workers were getting screwed out of OT covering shifts for their peers
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:24 pm to PaperTiger
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Going up to $54K in January I believe. Might have to check me on the amounts
Wholly uneducated on it but surprised it’s not pegged to local COL indexes or wage indexes
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:26 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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If you aren’t salaried, how are hours tracked if employees don’t clock in?
They typically aren't. You can get in a frick ton of trouble with the Wage and Hour division of the DOL if you do something stupid like that.
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:28 pm to NoSaint
Here's what Dept of Labor said. Looks like Texas courts struck it down though (I missed it sorry)
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The previous rule would have made millions of employees nonexempt from overtime pay. The rule would have increased the salary threshold from $35,568 to $43,888 per year on July 1, 2024, and then to $58,656 per year on January 1, 2025. The rule would have also included automatic increases every three years starting in 2027.
To be exempt from overtime pay, workers must meet certain job duties and be paid at least the salary threshold. Some occupations and job duties that are exempt from overtime pay include:
Commissioned sales employees
Computer professionals
Drivers, driver's helpers, loaders, and mechanics
Farmworkers on small farms
Seasonal and recreational establishments
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:14 am to Kreg Jennings
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Most folks are salary. I think it has something to do with exempt / non exempt.
You are an idiot. 75% of this country are not salaried employees.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:51 am to Kreg Jennings
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I remember there being a court case where it required employees making over / under a certain amount to clock in.
Was that over turned? Is anyone familiar with this requirement?
Thanks.
Not sure what you're talking about, but if you're required to be at work during specific hours every day then labor laws consider you an hourly worker who should be overtime eligible.
Obviously there's more to it than that, but that's the only thing I can think of that sounds remotely close to what you're asking.
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