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Remember my thread last week telling y’all what was in redacted Flynn memo?

Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:39 pm
I wrote this on this board last week:

My source is telling me what is behind redacted Flynn memos

quote:


1) a criminal investigation into what Mueller is calling “the grand bargain”...a major international scheme that was formulated shortly before 2016 elections and involves the nations of Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Russia. 17 of 19 meetings with mueller have been about this “grand bargain”


Well, dailybeast is out with an “exclusive” report today

Get ready for phase 2 of mueller probe; Middle East connection

“But now, special counsel Robert Mueller’s office is preparing to reveal to the public a different side of his investigation. In court filings that are set to drop in early 2019, prosecutors will begin to unveil Middle Eastern countries’ attempts to influence American politics, three sources familiar with this side of the probe told The Daily Beast.

In other words, the “Russia investigation” is set to go global.

Various witnesses affiliated with the Trump campaign have been questioned about their conversations with deeply connected individuals from the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, according to people familiar with the probe. Topics in those meetings ranged from the use of social-media manipulation to help install Trump in the White House to the overthrow of the regime in Iran.”
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:41 pm to
So this investigation will now be "Trump colluded with the ENTIRE WORLD!"

How dumb does Mueller think we are??
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23718 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:41 pm to
Very likely none of it is illegal. I call Mueller Create a Crime.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 12:45 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67956 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

countries’ attempts to influence American politics


isn't this why countries have had embassies and diplomats for centuries?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:43 pm to
Exactly what I thought when I saw the Daily Beast piece this morning. Make sure to keep your source plied to keep the spigots open.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:44 pm to
So... this is news but Doodad Pro Of Gaza Strip contributing to Obama’s campaign was a nothingburger?
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10533 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Very likely none of it is illegal


Is treason legal?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:45 pm to
As I've repeatedly said, anyone who thinks foreign nations don't try to influence US elections is living in dreamland. Of course they try to do that, just like we do to them. They probably do it at the state and local level too.

The British famously tried to influence US politics in the late 30's to early 40's to diminish the rise of the Nazi Party here, for example. Mostly it worked, or at least didn't backfire.

And voters fall for it too b/c they are dumb.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12387 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:45 pm to
What did the world know, and when did they know it?


Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23718 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:46 pm to
Treason...put up or shut up tell us exactly what was done. That's a big charge for someone that has no clue.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118834 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:46 pm to
This all stems from Lebanese business man George Nader and Obama's fixer Kathy Ruemmler. George Nader apparently knows about the Trump campaign team seeking help from a campaign ad firm owned by the UAE.

It's not a big deal because a deal was never worked out but even it if was it's still not illegal but Mueller will make it sound like a big deal and the MSM will run with it.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36065 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:48 pm to
You honestly believe that the Gulf State monarchies, who gave Hillary Clinton tens of millions of dollars while she was Secretary of State, wanted to elect Donald Trump? Clinton is a neocon, and the only thing neocons love more than spreading democracy at the butt of a gun is Arab monarchies on the Arabian peninsula.
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
889 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:48 pm to
They might have been politely asking the Middle Eastern countries to stop giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Clintons.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9299 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:48 pm to
Is Milk Legal?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14214 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:49 pm to
That is some HEAVY shite, if it is even close to being true.

I have been wondering what is the 2nd investigation the filings have been referring to that Flynn has given information on.

The way it was discussed, it seemed like it was something pretty significant. (not saying this is it or that it's true).
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11812 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

treason n. the crime of betraying one's country, defined in Article III, section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." Treason requires overt acts and includes the giving of government security secrets to other countries, even if friendly, when the information could harm American security. Treason can include revealing to an antagonistic country secrets such as the design of a bomber being built by a private company for the Defense Department. Treason may include "espionage" (spying for a foreign power or doing damage to the operation of the government and its agencies, particularly those involved in security) but is separate and worse than "sedition," which involves a conspiracy to upset the operation of the government.


so what has Trump supposedly done whithin the definition above to merit treason charges.....
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23718 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:49 pm to
The media is pounding the drum, but if any of this ever went in front of an impartial judge Mueller couldn't get a conviction.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48964 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Is treason legal?



Who and what?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118834 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

The media is pounding the drum, but if any of this ever went in front of an impartial judge Mueller couldn't get a conviction.




Of course but this is not the point. The objective is impeachment in the House.

For some reason I believe all this impeachment stuff is payback for Clinton's impeachment.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64366 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:56 pm to
The media as you said will blow air like this is a new thing, and that we all should be shocked and should never vote for a candidate not approved by the GOP and DNC:

"Look at all the pain and confusion this has caused across the land. This chaos is what happens when the American people don't listen to the professionals who chose our candidates for us."

Signed
msm
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