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re: Redistricting Solution: Randomized Districts every 2 years
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:42 am to SlowFlowPro
I’d totally be in favor of allowing a computer program do the redistricting based purely on population, but not every 2 years. That’s too much change, especially for the constituents who barely care enough to go vote as it is. Every 10 years after the census.
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
If it did go state level you probably still can’t get it done because a lot of them have federal ambitions.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:43 am to Big4SALTbro
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If you feed it bad data that would get it done.
The only data used would be population data and geography.
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We have a core problem of you can’t really trust anything at this point.
Jesus Christ.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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Who designs, implements, and maintains said programs?
If it's randomized, this doesn't matter.
You can't really be this obtuse.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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If it's randomized, this doesn't matter.
What exactly are you saying here? Someone has to design, implement, and maintain a system that Randomizes the districts. I'm asking who is creating the system you want?
You didn't say anything about randomizing the companies that develop these programs unless you are trying to suggest that some lottery will exist to randomly select a new company every 2 years to create a program which randomly selects districts. But even then, how do you prevent bias in the programming? Tech companies aren't known for their large conservative workforce.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Just a couple of computer programs would be needed.
I foresee no corruption at all with this plan.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:51 am to deathvalleytiger10
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I foresee no corruption at all with this plan.
How could this system even be corrupted?
If it's based on nothing more than population and geography (to force contiguity), how could it be corrupted?
Clearly the code would have to be public.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
What’s more likely to give way to bad outcomes, having known foxes guarding unknown henhouses or known henhouses with less skilled foxes
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Redistricting Solution
Form an edge-weighted graph of population clusters, merge the clusters, primarily based on distance criteria, and generate minumum spanning trees for the number of districts needed
Math can solve the problem
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:52 am to Nosevens
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What’s more likely to give way to bad outcomes, having known foxes guarding unknown henhouses or known henhouses with less skilled foxes
Yes part of this is a test of how much voters like the incumbency bias and bias in party-based district drawing.
Everyone has been bitching about both lately, but I reckon they still prefer the crutch of the known to the unknown.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now, this would do nothing for the Senate, obviously, also. Can't fix everything.
Go back to senators being selected by state legislators instead of popular vote
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Everyone has been bitching about both lately, but I reckon they still prefer the crutch of the known to the unknown.
I think whatever system is designed has to be simple enough that most people understand it. If you start having crazy technical solutions to this, the average person will immediately distrust it because they don't understand it.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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How could this system even be corrupted?
Seriously? C'mon.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
AI could probably draw contiguous districts with equal populations in a microsecond. What’s been happening to draw these malingering districts to mostly capture majority black areas is ridiculous. It is based on the assumption that demographics need to be the basis of representation which I disagree with. Now it appears to have shifted to favor D v R voting trends..which is also ridiculous and just an effort to stack the deck.
Maybe these districting wars will result in a change but that would require state legislatures acting pragmatically which will never happen.
Maybe these districting wars will result in a change but that would require state legislatures acting pragmatically which will never happen.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 7:59 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:59 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Seriously? C'mon.
If the program only has population and geography as inputs, how can it be corrupted?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:59 am to SquatchDawg
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but that would require state legislatures acting pragmatically which will never happen.
It would require incumbents to vote for systems that increase the chance that they lose their seat and their party loses power, so yes, they will not vote for it.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:01 am to SidewalkDawg
I asked ChatGPT to do one for Louisiana based just on population and geography (the parish outlines are a little wonky).
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:02 am to Mickey Goldmill
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I asked ChatGPT to do one for Louisiana based just on population and geography (the parish outlines are a little wonky).
What would the result of this redistrict be? Blue Louisiana or Red?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:04 am to Mickey Goldmill
That breakdown is incredibly representative of the state 
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
It would be interesting to see what the result would be to unbiased districting based on population and then apply recent voting trends.
My guess would be it would carve out some of the purely racial base districts..ie Clyburn in SC…which our cause an uproar. However, it would also force candidates to consider ALL of the citizens in these districts as it would probably make them more volatile.
My guess would be it would carve out some of the purely racial base districts..ie Clyburn in SC…which our cause an uproar. However, it would also force candidates to consider ALL of the citizens in these districts as it would probably make them more volatile.
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