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re: Redistricting Solution: Randomized Districts every 2 years
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:05 am to SidewalkDawg
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:05 am to SidewalkDawg
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What would the result of this redistrict be? Blue Louisiana or Red?
More purple.
The BR/No districts would be much less DEM and the others would have one metro area and lots of outer-lying red.
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:05 am to SquatchDawg
My OP specifically said the VRA has to be taken out of the mix. That fricks everything up
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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If the program only has population and geography as inputs, how can it be corrupted?
Easily. The data can be manipulated and set to achieve any outcome imaginable.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
Then you are basically back to where you started. Take the money out of representation and get skill v self serving people.
Having access to riches is temptation and not productive. Yes you’ll have a lot of wealthy upper class people making decisions, almost like when only landowners or the 19th didn’t exist voted
Having access to riches is temptation and not productive. Yes you’ll have a lot of wealthy upper class people making decisions, almost like when only landowners or the 19th didn’t exist voted
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:07 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Easily.
If it's so easy, explain some examples of how this could occur
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
I just looked at your current map.
WTF with District 6. Is that the MS River District? It stretches all the way from BR to Shrieveport.
WTF with District 6. Is that the MS River District? It stretches all the way from BR to Shrieveport.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:09 am to SquatchDawg
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WTF with District 6. Is that the MS River District? It stretches all the way from BR to Shrieveport.
Outside of Shreveport and I guess Monroe, NLA is sparsely populated. That district is always going to be geographically huge or split up to waste space for areas with real metro areas.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:11 am to SquatchDawg
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I just looked at your current map. WTF with District 6. Is that the MS River District? It stretches all the way from BR to Shrieveport.
Yeah….its ridiculous.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
No thanks. We can't stop the cheating in our voting machines, what makes one think these algorithms wouldn’t be altered?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
How would you handle long term planning for the district if it could change in a few years?
Congressman X works to get federal funds for a bridge in their district and just before it goes to appropriations the bridge gets moved from the district. Now it competes with another project that was added to the district.
Congressman X works to get federal funds for a bridge in their district and just before it goes to appropriations the bridge gets moved from the district. Now it competes with another project that was added to the district.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
That would be a coding issue that someone proficient in coding could explain.
You agree that someone has to code this program to achieve an outcome, right?
Just like any other hack, fraud, or other corruption, someone could easily manipulate the coding that has the knowledge to do so.
You may not agree, but that is how I see it.
You agree that someone has to code this program to achieve an outcome, right?
Just like any other hack, fraud, or other corruption, someone could easily manipulate the coding that has the knowledge to do so.
You may not agree, but that is how I see it.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:17 am to Mickey Goldmill
From a biased perspective, having uniform districts presents the risk of the urban centers in each basically controlling everything within their districts. By gerrymandering now, these populations are locked into smaller regions.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:19 am to Marshhen
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How would you handle long term planning for the district if it could change in a few years?
Why do we want the feds engaging in this much "long term planning" in such a manner?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:21 am to deathvalleytiger10
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You agree that someone has to code this program to achieve an outcome, right?
Sure, but the only inputs are population and geography, and the districts all have to have equal population.
You don't have to give me the code for the frickery, just the theoretical frickery that could exist with only those 2 inputs.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It would make political understanding of district needs and project follow-through pretty complicated.
Just a couple of computer programs would be needed.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
You are coming at this from an honest man's perspective.
Dishonest characters could backdoor this, hack it, and have the outcome appear to be how it was designed but, in fact, skew it to fit their agenda.
This isn't some sort of crazy thing that could occur.
Your theory of randomization is something I could vote for. It is the application that concerns me because of all the corruption we see day in and day out.
Agree to disagree.
Dishonest characters could backdoor this, hack it, and have the outcome appear to be how it was designed but, in fact, skew it to fit their agenda.
This isn't some sort of crazy thing that could occur.
Your theory of randomization is something I could vote for. It is the application that concerns me because of all the corruption we see day in and day out.
Agree to disagree.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:32 am to HagaDaga
Muh publican party is honest and forthright and morally superior!
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:34 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Dishonest characters could backdoor this, hack it, and have the outcome appear to be how it was designed but, in fact, skew it to fit their agenda.
The code would be public
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:34 am to NC_Tigah
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It would make political understanding of district needs and project follow-through pretty complicated.
That’s a valid concern as well.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:38 am to cadillacattack
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Just do it by county, and let the States administer their elections
I do like the "random" district idea primarily for its effect on the incumbent and ultimately, the lobbies.
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