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re: Reaction from our side if Utah doesn't get a death penalty sentence?

Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:53 am to
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Life in prison and tortured in prison > easy way out


I can’t imagine that a prison in Utah is full of hardcore gangsters and criminals.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:55 am to
Possible aggravating factor that would qualify:

“The offender created a great risk of death to others besides the intended victim.”

There’s a list of a dozen or so possible aggravating factors and I think this is the only one that might be even possibly applicable.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2744 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:56 am to
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Life in prison and tortured in prison > easy way out
Spending many years is prison, being used by bubba and his friends until he needs to wear a diaper would be worse than death for me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463697 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:58 am to
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I can’t imagine that a prison in Utah is full of hardcore gangsters and criminals.


There are tons of neo nazi and white supremacist organizations in Utah, and their prison population is 58% white, which means the neo nazi/aryan gangs run the prisons (prison is the most racist place on earth and almost everyone is divided into gangs by race).

The neo nazi/Aryan gangs are the most ruthless ones in prisons, typically.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463697 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:59 am to
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There’s a list of a dozen or so possible aggravating factors and I think this is the only one that might be even possibly applicable.

Gotcha.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8683 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:01 am to
Were they to find a way to charge him federally, then Florence Colorado SuperMax would be where he would likely go.

"SuperMax houses high-level members of organizations deemed as threats, such as prison gangs. "H" Unit houses inmates who are members of terror groups so designated by the Department of Justice or who have had special administrative measures (SAMs) placed on them. Range 13 is a special four-cell wing within the Special Housing Unit for inmates in need of the tightest control. As of 2022, the only inmates publicly known to have been incarcerated in this unit are Ramzi Yousef and Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán."
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28421 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:05 am to
Remember that Utah was the first state to execute someone after the Supreme Court re-instituted the death penalty. Gary Gilmore, by firing squad.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86169 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:10 am to
I don't know anything about the statutes involved, but the killing of one person may not bring the death penalty there.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15662 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:11 am to
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Most murder statutes that get you to the DP have some sort of political class targeting/assassination class of murder. The questions would be if Utah has that and if CK was considered that class of person.


Considering Charlie was essentially an adopted son of POTUS, I think special accommodations will be made
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:14 am to
I bet he's tried in federal court, not Utah.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
153972 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:14 am to
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The state has a current death row population of six and has carried out eight executions since 1976. The decision to impose the death penalty is made by a jury after considering all aggravating and mitigating circumstances.


He dead.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38494 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:21 am to
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Spending many years is prison, being used by bubba and his friends until he needs to wear a diaper would be worse than death for me.


A lot of this "life in prison" stuff that gets tossed around on here is overblown and exaggerated. Not saying it doesn't happen, but not near to the extent fantasized on here.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22774 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:24 am to
He is a skinny white kid. What do you think is going to happen to him in prison? He might prefer execution.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35424 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:26 am to
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Reaction from our side if Utah doesn't get a death penalty sentence?
I wouldn’t care. Life without parole is sufficient.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
3893 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:26 am to
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I imagine a state prison in Utah would not be the best place for the guy who killed Charlie Kirk. Based on demographics, you're going to run into a dominant white supremacist prison population and I doubt they vote DEM


You just can’t help yourself, cock holster.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463697 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:28 am to
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I think special accommodations will be made

That's now how the law works
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463697 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:29 am to
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You just can’t help yourself, cock holster.

You are clearly ignorant of how prison works
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8510 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:29 am to
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I imagine a state prison in Utah would not be the best place for the guy who killed Charlie Kirk. Based on demographics, you're going to run into a dominant white supremacist prison population and I doubt they vote DEM


I can’t believe you said that with a straight face.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35424 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:30 am to
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I can’t believe you said that with a straight face.

What did he say that isn’t accurate?
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