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re: RE: Election Results in VA, KY, LA; Are We Seeing The 1st Effect of Shifting Demographics?

Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:57 am to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:57 am to
This is what happens when you let boomers run the country for this long
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:13 am to
It’s time for an American Divorce
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:21 am to
Republicans got a supermajority in the legislature in LA and GOP candidates won every statewide race except governor because JBE was popular enough as the incumbent to capture independent vote and Rispone’s campaign manager decided attacking Abraham and tying himself to Trump without spending time to layout his plans for LA was a winning strategy. Then when Rispone had a chance to layout his plans while on stage with a Trump rally and a huge TV audience, he had no idea what to say except praising Trump.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:28 am to
Let's ignore that Harry Reid's family and friends owns the company that contracted out these new voting machines
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Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:09 am to
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You also can’t have a noteworthy portion of the party acting like urban voters are a bunch of idiots and leeches and then be surprised when they don’t want to come in the tent with you.

There are a considerable number of urban voters who are ignorant and misinformed for many reasons. Not least is having several generations "educated" in public school systems many of which are worse now than the "separate but equal" schools they were liberated from. We're leftists interested in helping alleviate this problem they would be less strident in their opposition to vouchers and charter schools and less beholden to the teacher's unions and state boards of education.

Couple this with having urban political leadership representing urban voters, for generations, empowering and enriching only themselves by exploiting their constituents through inflaming and perpetuating animosity between races and classes and you have a perpetual toxic atmosphere that's always ready to explode. Given that urban voters suffer most when this atmosphere explodes in their communities you'd think urban political leadership would work hard to promote racial harmony.

If urban voters have not by now awakened to the fact that they've been hoodwinked, bamboozled, and manipulated by radical racist leftists and that their sacred votes have been bought and sold, pennies on the dollar, to enrich those leftists and ensconce them in elite wealthy neighborhoods and in secure private schools, they never will. Leftists have played Robin Hood in effect promising to rob the middle class and the wealthy by taxation and give that money to urban communities. The problem is the leftists and their urban cronies keep all the political power and 90% of the taxes for themselves. Urban voters see little or nothing from voting for leftists.

Conservatism offers dignity and a path to freedom from the shackles of ignorance and poverty urban voters currently suffer under leftist democrat subjection. But it's a long arduous path that's required to undo and overcome generations of leftist lies and demagoguery.

Can that be put in a 30 second radio or television spot the next campaign cycle?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:27 am to
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NOVA? Yes.

KY and LA? No.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:45 am to
It goes way deeper than that. When you remove all aspects of God, you get godlessness. It's replaced with the opposite of what is there.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:46 am to
Va, Texas, Georgia are due to demographic shifts.

La and Ky haven’t changed much.

Florida has been 50/50 for awhile now.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:54 am to
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This is what happens when you let boomers run the country for this long


Yeah, they need to turn things over to people like you, Jussie Smollett, and those Kardashian chicks. America would be in great hands then.

Make the great intellectual of the Millennials, AOC, President of course.

PS - Even by your standards, that was a really stupid comment.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:25 am to
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It goes way deeper than that. When you remove all aspects of God, you get godlessness. It's replaced with the opposite of what is there.


I certainly agree with this. Taking God out of our schools and elsewhere has hurt this nation. Changed this nation.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:28 am to
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also hope that we can have a meaningful discussion about this.



i got your back.

The rationale about kentucky is
candidate lost but many gop candidates around state fared well.
It was one guy.

Louisiana
Abrahams guys were offended in.primary.
You lose support in.your own party expect to lose.
This was how nixon.beat humphrey.


Virginia is indeed the example of demographic change.


I appreciate the reasoned response, and I actually agree with you.

Perhaps your fellow liberals should study your post and try to learn how to give a substantive, relevant response.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:29 am to
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this country's future is SCREWED, SCREWED, SCREWED.


I never thought I would live to see the day when there were more Americans who hated the freedoms of our founding principles, and were vehemently opposed to our constitution and way of life, but I live in that time now.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53541 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:30 am to
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he Louisiana result could be a little bit of a misnomer

Louisiana has had more Democrat governors that Republican in my lifetime. I wouldn't read too much into that race.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:34 am to
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I never thought I would live to see the day when there were more Americans who hated the freedoms of our founding principles, and were vehemently opposed to our constitution and way of life, but I live in that time now.

We are a left of center country now.

We've always been 30 or so years behind Western Europe. That's what we'll look like in the future.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41092 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:41 am to
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I always believe in dealing with reality, even when that reality sucks donkey balls.


I applaud you for that and your post. The majority of the PT wants to stick their head in the sand and scream "fraud!" while ignoring the very real issues.

We have raised a generation of soft kids. When kids have constantly been coddled, never given any responsibility, bailed out of every problem, of course they are going to expect the same when they become adults. And if mom and dad are FINALLY cutting them off, they will turn to the next sugar daddy, which happens to be the government.

The boomers, and to a lesser extent, the Xers, complete and utter failings as parents have created this monster.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
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50092 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:54 am to
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The boomers, and to a lesser extent, the Xers, complete and utter failings as parents have created this monster.


That's one of the reasons why I try to take it easy on the Millenials. They didn't brainwash themselves.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:54 am to
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I always believe in dealing with reality, even when that reality sucks donkey balls. The Louisiana result could be a little bit of a misnomer, and perhaps Kentucky too, based on the GOP fielding candidates who were either weak or unpopular. But, we can also add some 2018 election results to the mix here, including 1) Ted Cruz only beating a complete moron by 2 points, and 2) Georgia and Florida almost electing Stacy Abrams and Andrew Gillium, respectively, two candidates who were basically Van Jones clones.

Here's the way I see it, in a nutshell. Both minorities and a significant component of young white voters view Big Government as a positive. They are fine with the federal government acting as the nanny state. And with minorities, I also think that they see conservatives as almost exclusively being white, and I have no doubt that their voting pattern involves a "sticking it to whitey" component attached to it.

So, what happens to America as this demographic shift continues to take place? Unless there's an equivalent mindset change, particularly amongst minorities, clearly the move towards a big government/Socialist state will continue. I'd almost say Socialist if we're lucky, because we really have no idea just how Far Left an America dominated by minorities and SJW whites will take us.

I mean, we might as well be honest about this. As I see it, unless minorities (especially Hispanics) begin to wake up and realize that liberty, Capitalism, and a limited government is always the path to prosperity, this country's future is SCREWED, SCREWED, SCREWED.

PS - I have absolutely no interest in telling the people who created a declining America, in 10-15 years, "I told you so." My hope is that this changing demographic will wake up shortly and see that they have been manipulated.

PS 2 - I also hope that we can have a meaningful discussion about this. If the trolls and morons don't hijack it, perhaps we can.




Let me take a shot at this. LA has a Secretary of State election where a Republican won close to 60% of the vote against a Democratic candidate who was a Black Female. In the Governors race, JBE got over 51% to Rispone getting under 49%. So, what explains the difference in voters, a significant number of traditional Republican voters at the National level supported JBE.

There are 2 extremes in this country, one who sees Government as the only Solution, Liberal Dems, and One who see everything in Government as wasteful (Certain Segment of Republicans). There are certain things that Government can only do, Roads and Bridges, etc by definition are public goods. Universities and schools, paying police and school teachers, etc.

I am 53 and was once a tribal Republican. No longer. I am an Independent who votes almost exclusively Republican and have never voted for a DEM for president. But starting with the Necon Bush 1, this country has been set up for the Elite of both parties. Bush 1's ill conceived Trade policies gutted traditional middle class jobs in the MFG sector. Infastructure in this state, which is a Federal and State Government area has lagged and is in a sorry state. You can look at Economic data now for almost 30 years and find that while GDP has grown and the market has trended up, most of the new jobs created were lower paying wage jobs in the service sector, and many of these jobs by design were structured for 30-35 hrs a week so the Big Corporations would avoid paying health and Dental plans and having to provide retirement plans for a huge chunk of employees. Walmart is one such company that uses this strategy which is why I don't shop there, COSTCO pays their employees much better and you get a lot better service there because people are treated like human beings, not as someone to serve the CEO and Big Corporate elite.

Much of what is "Capitalism" today is Crony Capitalism. That is why so many young people, black and Latino and young whites under 30 don't see things they way you did or I did back in the 70's growing up and 80's during the Reagan era. So I don't think all young people see Big Government being a Nanny, some do, but those are not the majority. I do believe more of them, given the Economic structure of today's economy do see Government as providing a safety net to keep people from falling below the poverty line.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50092 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:05 am to
Good response.


quote:

There are certain things that Government can only do, Roads and Bridges, etc by definition are public goods. Universities and schools, paying police and school teachers, etc.


I agree. National defense should be added, too.

I really don't think too many conservatives are against any type of government, but I have encountered one such kook recently.


PS - I'm an Independent who despises the Republican Party, too. Too many bought-and-paid-for Establishment hacks like Romney and Ryan in that party. But just like you, I'm forced to vote for Republicans because the Democrats have basically become a party for those who hate America. I sure as hell can't support that.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
62251 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:08 am to
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I never thought I would live to see the day when there were more Americans who hated the freedoms of our founding principles, and were vehemently opposed to our constitution


It started under Regan and the rise of the corporate monarchy and the "greed is good" mantra of Gordon Gecko. It passed the tipping point when we allowed the Patriot Act to strip us of are rights under the guise if safety.



USA is not the first to go down this road, and will not be the last. Athens gave us the most used quote tho on how this all ends...

Athens
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In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all – security, comfort, and freedom. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again.


Rome
quote:

The decline of Rome was the natural and inevitable effect of immoderate greatness. Prosperity ripened the principle of decay; the cause of the destruction multiplied with the extent of conquest; and, as soon as time or accident and removed the artificial supports, the stupendous fabric yielded to the pressure of its own weight. The story of the ruin is simple and obvious: and instead of inquiring why the Roman Empire was destroyed we should rather be surprised that it has subsisted for so long.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:08 am to
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bmy


Another dumb government worker !
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