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RE: Election Results in VA, KY, LA; Are We Seeing The 1st Effect of Shifting Demographics?

Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:30 pm
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:30 pm
I always believe in dealing with reality, even when that reality sucks donkey balls. The Louisiana result could be a little bit of a misnomer, and perhaps Kentucky too, based on the GOP fielding candidates who were either weak or unpopular. But, we can also add some 2018 election results to the mix here, including 1) Ted Cruz only beating a complete moron by 2 points, and 2) Georgia and Florida almost electing Stacy Abrams and Andrew Gillium, respectively, two candidates who were basically Van Jones clones.

Here's the way I see it, in a nutshell. Both minorities and a significant component of young white voters view Big Government as a positive. They are fine with the federal government acting as the nanny state. And with minorities, I also think that they see conservatives as almost exclusively being white, and I have no doubt that their voting pattern involves a "sticking it to whitey" component attached to it.

So, what happens to America as this demographic shift continues to take place? Unless there's an equivalent mindset change, particularly amongst minorities, clearly the move towards a big government/Socialist state will continue. I'd almost say Socialist if we're lucky, because we really have no idea just how Far Left an America dominated by minorities and SJW whites will take us.

I mean, we might as well be honest about this. As I see it, unless minorities (especially Hispanics) begin to wake up and realize that liberty, Capitalism, and a limited government is always the path to prosperity, this country's future is SCREWED, SCREWED, SCREWED.

PS - I have absolutely no interest in telling the people who created a declining America, in 10-15 years, "I told you so." My hope is that this changing demographic will wake up shortly and see that they have been manipulated.

PS 2 - I also hope that we can have a meaningful discussion about this. If the trolls and morons don't hijack it, perhaps we can.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:31 pm to
Fraud baw



Voter fraud

Impeach the mother ******
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:32 pm to
Yes, we are screwed in the long run unless significant numbers of blacks and browns wake up and decide to start voting against Marxism.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98403 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:42 pm to
NOVA? Yes.

KY and LA? No.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:44 pm to
Plantation democrats and early "voting"

Also there have been many reports about the voting machines being hackable that it is highly likely that is what happened. Just look at the down ballots compared to the gov talleys. People showing up to vote for Reps but not the gov? Yeah fricking right
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:45 pm to
It's time to get rid of early voting and back to analog machines.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:50 pm to
It's hard to compete against people that say they will give you free stuff
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:54 pm to
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As I see it, unless minorities (especially Hispanics)


Then start campaigning to them. Republicans have seemingly decided to cede urban areas, for some reason, writing them off as lost causes, when the reason Democrats have those demographics is entirely due to Democrats long history of campaigning to those groups. African-Americans didn't magically decide to vote Democrat in 1932. It was the specific effort of FDR to build the New Deal Coalition. The involvement of key Northern Democrats in the Civil Rights Movement ensured that African-Americans would have an affinity to Democratic political machines, in spite of Southern Democrat resistance. The historical affinity remains, even when those local machines did nothing but ensure the status quo to the detriment of the African-Americans who allowed that machine to operate.

You have to campaign and assume no vote is lost. That philosophy was espoused by Obama, who had the highest vote total for Democrats in rural areas by a margin of nearly 10%, as he got 45% of the rural vote. That was also Obama's criticism of Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016. Even cutting into the percentages by small amounts can have a massive impact on close elections.

Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:58 pm to
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And with minorities, I also think that they see conservatives as almost exclusively being white, and I have no doubt that their voting pattern involves a "sticking it to whitey" component attached to it


This is one of the stupidest things written on this board.

Do you really believe this?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146424 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:07 pm to
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It's time to get rid of early voting and back to analog machines.
Agreed. Many computer vote machines switched to D straight ticket in NC with Obama. The republican party actually had the sense to utilize immediate paper ballot rules. Also. did La. clean up their voter rolls? NOLA is like Philly they bused em in.

I don't think these wins were a bellwether for national politics. But the 2 week voting stuff needs to go in all States; it feeds the dems time to go to mental institutions <----this happened in NC with Obama, never again--- and vote D *for* them. End motor voter, it is a nice convenience but they can register illegals.

The dems thought they had won in NC they didn't. Kentucky was a local brah like a Kennedy, Louisiana gonna Louisiana, sorry. Also La. needs to stop the open party primary.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:07 pm to
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This is one of the stupidest things written on this board.


What's stupid is your apparent cluelessness.

Dude, ask yourself the following questions: Why do you think Obama race-baited every situation he could get his hands on, from the Cambridge Police matter to Trayvon Martin to Ferguson to Baltimore to Dallas to Baton Rouge?

Why do you think that the current pathetic group of Democrat Party presidential candidates are talking about White Supremacy and playing racial-identity politics 24/7? Do you think they would do this if it didn't resonate with minorities?

Buy a vowel and get a clue, fool.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21658 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:11 pm to
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But the 2 week voting stuff needs to go in all States


Dems know that a chunk of their core constituency is just lazy. That's why they champion motor-voter (that and illegals), that's why they love early voting and anything that extends voting periods. It gives them more time to bribe and persuade voters who otherwise would never go to the effort to vote.
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:15 pm to
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Also there have been many reports about the voting machines being hackable that it is highly likely that is what happened.


what a dumb frick.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9340 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:18 pm to
Louisiana was the first state to go 100% digital voting machines. What it did was stop butt arse cold Dem manipulation in inner city precincts.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35934 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:29 pm to
Voting used to be limited to those who had a vested interest in how government ran. Up through the early 19th century, only those with land could vote, as they were largely the only people who paid taxes or who had any kind of outcome-specific consequences of legislative policies.

Today, any moron can vote for a candidate whose campaign uses ridiculous race-baiting and fearmongering in an attempt to further institutionalize identity politics (here's looking at you JBE). Any welfare case can vote for a candidate who promises them free stuff paid for via other people's tax dollars (once again, here's looking at you JBE).

The fact of the matter is that the United States of America has been in a long state of decay since the end of WW2. We are largely a moronic population. We abhor freedom and instead value security, even if it means the death of liberty. Our youth take their political cues from people like Lebron James and Colin Kaepernick rather than Thomas Paine or Thomas Jefferson. Everyone would rather be a goddamn victim than an innovator. This country is lost for good and there is no coming back.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21373 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:32 pm to
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Then start giving free shite to them. Republicans have seemingly decided to cede urban areas, for some reason, writing them off as lost causes, when the reason Democrats have those demographics is entirely due to Democrats long history of giving free shite to those groups.


In both of these instances you could have replaced campaigning with "giving free shite" and more accurately represented what's going on.

See above.

Republicans will not win by telling people that welfare is actually harming them. And they'll abandon their own base if they do actually offer more free shite than is already being given (and still lose).
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 6:34 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5526 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:44 pm to
Forget the "I told you so's", either Florida or Texas is going blue for good and everything we know and love will be gone.

I feel sorry for my son that must endure. I'll be old enough to get free stuff until the death panel determines my medical condition is too expensive to treat.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:46 pm to
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In both of these instances you could have replaced campaigning with "giving free shite" and more accurately represented what's going on.



And? Democrats promise them free stuff, among other things, and then don't deliver, yet these groups continue to vote for Democrats, primarily because Democrats actually campaign to them. What consistent campaign efforts have Republicans done, from the national level, specifically aimed at Latinos? You don't have to promise anyone anything, but you need outreach, you need engagement, and you need to chase every single vote.

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Republicans will not win by telling people that welfare is actually harming them. And they'll abandon their own base if they do actually offer more free shite than is already being given (and still lose).



You completely missed my point. If you can shave off a couple of percentage points off both groups, you can turn the tide of close elections. Rispone lost by 35,000 votes, which is not an insurmountable margin. Campaign to these groups and see what happens. The point should be that you need to chase every vote to win close elections. It is exactly what Trump did, as other Republicans might have written off the Rust-belt as traditionally Democratic territory.

Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 6:59 pm to
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The point should be that you need to chase every vote to win close elections. It is exactly what Trump did

he capitalized on an opportunity following a presidency that wildly aggravated a huge number of people. Edwards has been careful not to inflame people here with social or racial BS (as far as it coming out of his mouth)
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10676 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:04 pm to
It’s class warfare my friend. Haves and Have Nots

The Have Nots want to level the playing field because they haven’t worked as hard as the Haves
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