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re: RE: Election Results in VA, KY, LA; Are We Seeing The 1st Effect of Shifting Demographics?

Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:04 pm to
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he capitalized on an opportunity following a presidency that wildly aggravated a huge number of people.


I'd argue that he made the opportunity himself, by differentiating himself from typical political-speak and saying whatever he felt. And regardless, at one point in time, the Rust-Belt was a Democratic stronghold that they now have to expend resources on. Why doesn't that strategy extended to other historical Democratic strongholds? Again, you don't have to win, you have to peel percentage points off the Democrat.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:10 pm to
While immigration is a problem, an equally big problem is a public school and university system that is indoctrinating the young in atheism and socialism,
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:12 pm to
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You have to campaign and assume no vote is lost. That philosophy was espoused by Obama, who had the highest vote total for Democrats in rural areas by a margin of nearly 10%, as he got 45% of the rural vote. That was also Obama's criticism of Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016. Even cutting into the percentages by small amounts can have a massive impact on close elections.


You also can’t have a noteworthy portion of the party acting like urban voters are a bunch of idiots and leeches and then be surprised when they don’t want to come in the tent with you. (Issue cuts both ways but we are talking about a specific issue here so only addressing that direction)
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:14 pm to
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VA, KY, LA; Are We Seeing The 1st Effect of Shifting Demographics?


The demographics in Va have changed due to the influx of white guilt liberals in the DC suburbs. Ky and La were just the result of bad candidates.
Posted by UncleD7734
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:19 pm to
I believe that the Democrats are better organized.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:24 pm to
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The demographics in Va have changed due to the influx of white guilt liberals in the DC suburbs. Ky and La were just the result of bad candidates.




I don't really disagree. I think the 2018 races I mentioned in Texas, Florida, and Georgia are more indicative of what I'm talking about.

Still, the relevant point is that, imo, we are beginning to see some "unusual" results as a result of changing demographics. Beto O'Rourke should've been laughed out of Texas, and Socialists like Stacy Abrams and Andrew Gillium wouldn't have even bothered to run for Governor in their respective states just a few years ago.

And yet, all 3 of them almost won. Yes, we are most definitely beginning to see the effects of the shifting demographic.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:28 pm to
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And yet, all 3 of them almost won. Yes, we are most definitely beginning to see the effects of the shifting demographic.


All three had something in common too. I don’t disagree with you, but it’s not like they can get those results with a normal white person, and despite their virtue signaling, that’s who most of the power players are.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:29 pm to
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I believe that the Democrats are better organized.



THIS! 100% THIS!

It is not that the dems are organized that well either. The RNC has gone to shite every since Reince Preibus left to be chief of staff.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:33 pm to
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I'd argue that he made the opportunity himself, by differentiating himself from typical political-speak and saying whatever he felt.

but Obama was deeply unpopular for the race baiting and white blaming, and Edwards has done or said nothing like that

Edwards is not widely disliked. You can argue why that is but it’s still true. This was not a race run on hearts and minds.

Nationally I agree with your strategy but it would not have affected this election
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:35 pm to
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RE: Election Results in VA, KY, LA; Are We Seeing The 1st Effect of Shifting Demographics?


I think something very important is being ignored or overlooked .

Real Conservatives are tired of establishment Republicans and are not voting in these races.

Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17301 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:38 pm to
I think It’s indicative of the stranglehold Democrat Party has on gvt workers of all stripes. It’s a worldview that you just don’t have if you work in the private sector.

Public employees (Fed in VA, and Teachers
and others in KY/LA) doomed conservative campaigns that would otherwise probably appeal to these people.

Not sure of the percentage of workers in La that are employed by the gvt, but I think it’s fairly high.


ETA - about 15 percent of Louisiana’s workforce is employed by the Gvt. Business Insider Census Data
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Real Conservatives are tired of establishment Republicans and are not voting in these races.


Yep. I wish I had a buck for every time I read “Who cares about pissed off conservatives, what are they going to do, vote for the democrat?” No, they just won’t vote.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:47 pm to
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Nationally I agree with your strategy but it would not have affected this election



I disagree. Orleans Parish went 89.8% for Edwards. If the parish went 80-20 or 75-25 for Edwards, the race might have gone in Rispone's favor. I don't know what Rispone's outreach was in New Orleans, but shaving off a couple of percentage points is well within the range of a committed campaign.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:52 pm to
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also hope that we can have a meaningful discussion about this.


i got your back.

The rationale about kentucky is
candidate lost but many gop candidates around state fared well.
It was one guy.

Louisiana
Abrahams guys were offended in.primary.
You lose support in.your own party expect to lose.
This was how nixon.beat humphrey.


Virginia is indeed the example of demographic change.


This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19304 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:10 pm to
As for LA, No.

You had almost 867k vote for REP Ardoin.
734k, over 100k less, voted for Rispone.

That means over 100k republicans either didn’t vote for governor or voted JBE instead. We did it to ourselves and the Democrats laugh at us. Fools.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:38 pm to
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I always believe in dealing with reality


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I have no doubt that their voting pattern involves a "sticking it to whitey" component attached to it.


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this country's future is SCREWED, SCREWED, SCREWED.


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because we really have no idea just how Far Left an America dominated by minorities and SJW whites will take us.


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My hope is that this changing demographic will wake up shortly and see that they have been manipulated.


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I have absolutely no interest in telling the people who created a declining America, in 10-15 years, "I told you so."





That is not dealing with reality nor an attempt at meaningful discussion, it is delusion, denial, and projection, otherwise known as crybaby bullshite.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:54 pm to
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I have no doubt that their voting pattern involves a "sticking it to whitey" component attached to it.



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That is not dealing with reality nor an attempt at meaningful discussion, it is delusion, denial, and projection, otherwise known as crybaby bullshite


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cave canem


As usual, you are wrong. I'll prove it by documenting the first comment above. A component of minorities do have a resentment/jealousy/hatred of whites. I'll use the Obama's, two of the most successful and powerful minorities in America, to prove my point. Geez, where to begin with those two? Just last week, Michelle Obama was calling out white people and saying, "Y'all were running from us, and you're still running from us." That's total bullshite on so many levels. For one thing, upwardly mobile blacks leave bad neighborhoods just as much as whites do. Secondly, what a total hypocrite Michelle Obama is. She and Barack can't live just anywhere for security reasons, and of course I get that. But, there are several WEALTHY AND AFFLUENT BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS in America. Not to mention several wealthy and affluent mixed neighborhoods. However, the two primary residences of the Obama's, in Martha's Vineyard and Washington, are TWO OF THE WHITEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN AMERICA.

If living amongst minorities is such a great thing, why aren't Barack and Michelle Obama practicing what they preach? Talk about a couple of hypocrites! That bitter, angry woman had absolutely no justification for calling out white people, but of course calling out and demonizing white people is one of her favorite pastimes.

Another example. This has come back into the news in just the past couple of days, but Michelle Obama was caught at a 9/11 ceremony saying to hubby, "All this for a damn flag." And obtw, your messiah Barack nods affirmatively TWICE. Seriously, how anti-American can you get?

Last example. Seriously, name one situation that Barack Obama did not race-bait during his 8 years in office. From the Cambridge Police matter to Trayvon Martin to Ferguson to Baltimore to Dallas to Baton Rouge, Barack Obama did nothing but fan the flames of racial division for 8 years.

And remember, these angry, hateful people are arguably the two most powerful and successful people in America. If the Obama's hate white America this much, and they do, are you going to tell me that a sizable number of rank-and-file black people don't feel the same way?

Sorry if the truth bothers you that much, but that's not my problem. It's yours.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31555 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:21 pm to
I think it’s a reflection of why Trump is so popular. The GOP doesn’t know how to speak or appeal to voters less than 50 years old. Trump does and in ways that they can’t understand.

The LA GOP leadership needs to go away and quickly. Edwards was insanely beatable and the voters just stayed home.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32261 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:43 pm to
Blacks vote in blocks. 99% of AA voted for Bel. And they are breeding at a rapid clip because they are financially incented to do so.

Add in the constant media brainwashing and shaming causing many impressionable young people to think they need to have white guilt too. And enough of them are unemployed and/or on the government dole that they vote for the free shite candidates too.

We are half a generation from this country following the Venezuela path to ruin. When the takers outnumber the producers. And we are almost there.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:55 am to
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As usual, you are wrong. I'll prove it by documenting the first comment above. A component of minorities do have a resentment/jealousy/hatred of whites. I'll use the Obama's, two of the most successful and powerful minorities in America, to prove my point.



Since a component of the Republicans are racist all are if your circular logic is to be followed.


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"Y'all were running from us, and you're still running from us." That's total bullshite on so many levels. For one thing, upwardly mobile blacks leave bad neighborhoods just as much as whites do.


No it is not bullshite, the day the first upwardly mobile black moves in whites start selling their homes ASAP, I do not blame them one bit but that does not make it less true.

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Secondly, what a total hypocrite Michelle Obama is.


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that bitter, angry woman had absolutely no justification for calling out white people, but of course calling out and demonizing white people is one of her favorite pastimes.



And? She is a POS but WTF does that have to do with your earlier post.

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And obtw, your messiah Barack



You are projecting again, there is miles of room between sucking off Trump every waking second and worshiping Obama, in fact this space is where the vast majority of Americans live.


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If the Obama's hate white America this much

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Last example. Seriously, name one situation that Barack Obama

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Barack Obama did nothing but fan the flames



See a theme here, you are basing your opinion on a wide range of folks over your irrational hatred of Obama, how many times did youi type his name in a thread that had zero to do with him,

I am not sure if you are deranged or just an out and out racist but both are a bad look, just as bad in fact as those that suffer from TDS.




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