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re: Prosecutors are going to struggle to find anything the 'necks did that breaks a Ga law.

Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:14 pm to
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Georgia panel approves bill aiming to make it legal to brandish a gun


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A Georgia Senate panel approved legislation late Monday that would make it legal for a gun owner to pull or show their firearm during a dispute as long as he or she doesn’t “aim it offensively” at someone.


State Sen. Tyler Harper, an Ocilla Republican, said the legislation addresses a variety of issues gun rights advocates have with the state’s carry laws. The bill, which was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee on a 5-3 party-line vote, also would allow licensed gun owners to carry their weapons in churches and in courts when there are no judicial proceedings.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:17 pm to
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have any of these things been shown to be true?



Not in the least.

I'm no liberal, I can't stand the enemy of the people media, and its hard to imagine bigger pieces of shite than the race hucksters who cry racism everytime there's an altercation involving white people but people trying to defend these stupid redneck MFs are just as bad as Martin Luther Cream and the gang.

What these dumbfricks did was murder this guy and they have no justification for it.

Then the local keystones and DA went ahead and covered for them because Sr McDumbfrick used to wear a badge...

frick them all
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:19 pm to
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The accused openly confessed to a class C felony in Georgia based on the police report. So, at a minimum, they are already guilty of a crime.



The same could be said about Michael Flynn. He confessed but under duress. We don't know what was held over them either BUT this is why all the facts need to come out.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:26 pm to
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in the truck with guns (one climbing in the back)


I think this puts it over the top lmao. That’s pretty insane to be wielding a gun in a truckbed while chasing someone down to initiate a confrontation. Let alone you coordinated this because (mcmichaels description of events) ‘saw someone running and it looked suspicious because I know about recent break ins in the area’. That is what he told police to justify his confrontation.

If he knew about a current felony B&E he surely would have said that is why he went to confront him instead, he is retired LEO. Suggesting he was knowingly thwarting a B&E to justify an illegal ‘citizen’s arrest’ would mean he lied to police about the confrontation, digging him a deeper hole.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49686 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:27 pm to
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Then the local keystones and DA went ahead and covered for them because Sr McDumbfrick used to wear a badge...



How is the locals recusing themselves covering for these guys?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:29 pm to
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How is the locals recusing themselves covering for these guys?

Because it took the video leaking to the public for them to do what they should have done months ago. It speaks volumes that nothing happened back then, and now that they are recused justice is moving forward.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:31 pm to
when did you pass the bar?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:33 pm to
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Then the local keystones and DA went ahead and covered for them because Sr McDumbfrick used to wear a badge...


How is the locals recusing themselves covering for these guys?


As I recall the DA told the cops to not arrest the perps the day it happened.

Is this incorrect?
Posted by 3rd Try Tiger
Member since Nov 2018
456 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Or maybe a final unnecessary shot after the suspect had broken off his fight for the gun. JMO.


Hey...he was just going for some Skittles.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:00 pm to
I missed that admission. Would you be so kind as to put forth in detail that admission. You very well may be right. The state may have a video taped statement as to that fact or a signed statement saying "we tried to arrest or hold under gunpoint the gentleman til the police arrived" or so such similar lingo. Was gonna detain or that was our aim was a citizen's arrest won't hold water. With an attorney and a jury what will carry the day in court is what happened. And I likely as heck missed things but what I saw was a runner, a truck, a transcribed cry out for the runner to stop, stop we want to talk to you then a turn to violence by the runner and a struggle for a gun and then the shootings. I didn't see any pointing of guns although it may have happened. And I didn't hear any words to the effect of arrest, hold or detain. I did read the transcribed stop/talk. Bear in mind the transcription is only at the tragic final setting.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:05 pm to
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The same could be said about Michael Flynn. He confessed but under duress. We don't know what was held over them either BUT this is why all the facts need to come out.



So your position is the police were blackmailing mcmichaels at the time of his statement after the incident? They blackmailed him so that he would admit to actions they weren’t going to pursue? He wasn’t being interrogated and confessed under threat of stuff happening to his family. He was reaching to come up with some garbage justification so his buddy DEA/LEOs would sweep it under the rug. Turns out when its actually scrutinized all of it was fubar.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:07 pm to
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As I recall the DA told the cops to not arrest the perps the day it happened.

Is this incorrect?
The DA directed the police not to arrest. Not entirely sure when but it was shortly after the incident.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:51 pm to
Just a couple weeks too late for the McMichaels.
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:16 pm to
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As usual, the Left picks a terrible person to hitch their cart behind.


A murder victim?

Even the vilest MF has the right to his life.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:34 pm to
bass: again the truth is prosecutors have their work cut out for them. They face not only the daunting task of proving up murder on a case with several fluid Ga. law aspects. They also need a 12-0 jury decision in criminal to convict. Jury selection can almost guarantee a few that are gonna convict regardless and a few that are gonna go down the not guilty trip regardless. The father/son are going to walk in all likely hood if the case is presented as is. Which means the state doesn't want to try so they will try to work a plea. Or maybe they do and then claim "we tried" and get out of this.

Stupid is as stupid does for all parties here. The runner "jogging" several miles from his home. So dedicated to his fitness that he stops in strange neighborhoods to check out hardwood floor choices and flees when a guy catches him doing so. Criminal trespass is no minor thing to a convicted 2018 felon. So is that why he doesn't just say to the father/son deputy dogs, "ok, let's call the cops" rather than attacking one with a gun.

And then the X-cop father who can't quit drawing a contrast between the good guys (the cops) and the turds (everyone else).
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20276 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:36 pm to
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They did something reallllllly fricking dumb


What is dumber. Trying to stop an alleged burglar with a criminal record recently seen exiting private property or that said burglar running toward the guys trying to question him and then attempting to take their guns away?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:38 pm to
It’s not a contest. They’re all going to lose.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 8:42 pm to
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Criminal trespass is no minor thing to a convicted 2018 felon. So is that why he doesn't just say to the father/son deputy dogs, "ok, let's call the cops" rather than attacking one with a gun.

No way to know because he's dead, thus he won't be on trial. It's the actions of the father and son that will be scrutinized, and if they happen to have slipped up and have no way to show that felony occurred, then their stupid prize will be life in prison without any possibility of parole, ever. And that's the better outcome given the death penalty would be the other option. I don't think the latter will ever be on the table in this case, but life without parole ain't no walk in the park. In fact, I think they were denied bond, and if it stays that way then they may have already seen their last day of freedom.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20276 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:25 pm to
Oh it’s a contest alright and the Jogger gambled and lost everything.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177328 posts
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:31 pm to
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They did something reallllllly fricking dumb and will have every media outlet against them. But I think this might wind up like a George Zimmerman type deal.

I came to this conclusion a few days ago when I saw the only picture the media was using of this guy was 8 years old.

The media/social media overplays their hand then the real story slowly trickles out. We see it every time.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 10:32 pm
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