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Progressive cities like San Francisco & Seattle have largest racial gaps

Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:03 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:03 am
in student achievement.

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A new study has found that America's most progressive cities — like San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C. — have the largest racial gaps in student achievement and graduation rates, while some of America's most conservative cities are leading the way in racial educational equity.

The study, "The Secret Shame: How America's Most Progressive Cities Betray Their Commitment to Educational Opportunity for All," was conducted by Brightbeam, a nonprofit network of education activists. It set out to analyze the conundrum experienced in many of America's cities; which is that despite economic prosperity, the problem gaps in educational outcomes come along racial lines.

What researchers found was that "students in America's most progressive cities face greater racial inequity in achievement and graduation rates than students living in the nation's most conservative cities." The study even says that they "tried to explain [the findings] away, but [they] couldn't."

Here are some findings highlighted in the study that came as a shock to researchers:

Progressive cities, on average, have achievement gaps in math and reading that are 15 and 13 percentage points higher than in conservative cities, respectively.

In San Francisco, for example, 70% of white students are proficient in math, compared to only 12% of black students reaching proficiency — a 58-point gap.

In Washington, D.C., 83% of white students scored proficient in reading compared to 23 percent of black students — a 60-point gap.

In contrast, three of the 12 most conservative cities — Virginia Beach, Anaheim and Fort Worth — have effectively closed or even erased the gap in at least one of the academic categories we examined.

In order to come to these data points, researchers relied on criteria developed independently by political scientists to rank America's biggest cities in terms of conservatism. Then they selected the 12 most progressive and the 12 most conservative cities from the list, and analyzed each city's publicly available achievement and graduation data.

Speaking with NBC News, Brightbeam CEO Chris Stewart said the results are hard to believe.

"In the cities that have the most resources, and frankly the most places where the kids really need help, we have done outstandingly bad. Not just bad results, but results that defy the imagination of what you'd expect for a place like San Francisco, where they have so many resources it boggles the mind," Stewart said.

"Places like San Francisco, Seattle, Minneapolis — which boast a very strong economy and very strong levels of education for white kids — are doing so poorly for kids at the bottom of the well," he added.

"D.C. shocked me," he said, noting that the U.S. capital has a 62-point gap between black and white students in math proficiency rates, the highest disparity among the cities analyzed.

"It was the most shocking of all. I always considered D.C. a good black city with strong black political power. But it's changed. The gaps between education, wealth, home ownership ... are outstanding."

San Francisco (58 points difference), Minneapolis (53) and Oakland, California (51) round out the top four progressive cities with the largest gaps, NBC News noted, and the achievement disparity between Latino and white students was not much better.
Posted by dietcoke7
LA
Member since Aug 2007
1040 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:20 am to
Conclusion?

Sounds like it is time to move from socialism to communism.

Alternative conclusion?

Math and reading are racist!

Racist conclusion?

Black parents, although using a plural is largely inaccurate, mostly, not all but most, see education as a free government baby sitter and don't give a crap about achievement! (My wife taught public junior and high school for 27 years)
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37543 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 4:48 am to
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America's most progressive cities face greater racial inequity in achievement and graduation rates than students living in the nation's most conservative cities." The study even says that they "tried to explain [the findings] away, but [they] couldn't."


This is the most troubling thing of all
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:18 am to
When you ask nothing of people who are by definition immature (children) and provide them a tailor made excuse for accomplishing nothing you get nothing.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11353 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:47 am to
Liberals are racists? Color me shocked.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10148 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 5:58 am to
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In the cities that have the most resources...we have done outstandingly bad.

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..where they have so many resources it boggles the mind

What is this "we" you are talking about? Don't blame me for that crap.

Also, wait...more money thrown at the problem doesn't solve it? Who would-a-thunk it?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24756 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:00 am to
If they are pandered to and the curricula are dumbed down because of low expectations, I dont see how that gap gets closed. In cities where minorities are expected to do as well as majority students, they do.

The soft bigotry of low expectations.

I expect to see this turned around and someone will explain to us that the stress created by pushing these students to perform at a high level is creating emotional and psychological problems for the kids and is therefore not justified.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:04 am to
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If they are pandered to and the curricula are dumbed down because of low expectations, I dont see how that gap gets closed. In cities where minorities are expected to do as well as majority students, they do

This is an entirely foreign concept to the average liberal. It's really strange because if you meet a liberal in person they know the above without any doubt if you were talking about their children or their neighbors children

But get on to a subject outside of their circle and suddenly basic common knowledge leaves their brain and is replaced with the exact opposite.

Hell I know myself that if I could make what I make right now while putting in half the effort I would totally do it. Heck if I could make 80% of what I make now while putting in half the effort I would do it

Why do liberals think minorities won't behave in the way any other human would behave?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98876 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:10 am to
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When you ask nothing of people who are by definition immature (children) and provide them a tailor made excuse for accomplishing nothing you get nothing.


This.

I would imagine that in each of those progressive cities, those students and their parent(s) are told daily that they are victims, whitey is evil and they will never get ahead because of racism. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

I would also imagine in the conservative cities these messages are greatly muted (if they are expressed at all).

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:20 am to
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America's most progressive cities face greater racial inequity in achievement and graduation rates than students living in the nation's most conservative cities." The study even says that they "tried to explain [the findings] away, but [they] couldn't."

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This is the most troubling thing of all

Why? Let's not pretend we didn't know this
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29695 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:30 am to
this should be a surprise to no one
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 6:31 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:35 am to
You should see the class pictures from my niece's Bay area preschool class. It's whiter than any preschool you'd see anywhere in LA

Muh diversity!
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34658 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:19 am to
my impression of the DC public school system from my time in the area is that it's a jobs program for a lot of middle class blacks...look at the administrator/teacher ratio and the amount of money spent per pupil...
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:21 am to
Did the study show the difference between whites having two parents and the black children having one?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:26 am to
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Muh diversity!


Progressives are all about diversity as long as that diversity stays out of their gated neighborhoods and schools.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37543 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:48 am to
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my impression of the DC public school system from my time in the area is that it's a jobs program for a lot of middle class blacks...look at the administrator/teacher ratio and the amount of money spent per pupil...


Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!

Look at Louisiana public school administrations. Look at all Louisiana public entities like the SWB and DOTD. It’s nothing but jobs programs for low achievers.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16420 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:49 am to
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A new study has found that America's most progressive cities — like San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C. — have the largest racial gaps in student achievement and graduation rates,


Who knew that liberal, prog filth oppressed non-whites better than anyone in US history? Did it then, continue to do it now.

Nothing has changed.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:51 am to
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Black parents, although using a plural is largely inaccurate, mostly, not all but most, see education as a free government baby sitter and don't give a crap about achievement! (My wife taught public junior and high school for 27 years)





It's unfortunate, but even I have to agree with you. This is the biggest reason I never entered education. Black families (as a group) don't care about education.

The big issue is that your dealing with younger mothers (I'm sure you know exactly what I'm saying) who don't have their own lives figured out.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:57 am to
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What researchers found was that "students in America's most progressive cities face greater racial inequity in achievement and graduation rates than students living in the nation's most conservative cities."


Stopped reading right there. They don't face any inequality there. They simply aren't achieving at as high a level as other students. If I had to guess, it's because in leftist utopia, minorities must be admitted in certain numbers, even if it shuts out qualified students, and even if those admitted are slobbering retards.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 7:57 am to
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Look at Louisiana public school administrations. Look at all Louisiana public entities like the SWB and DOTD. It’s nothing but jobs programs for low achievers.





Let's look at this practically. Those job programs at least give people some form of employment. I'd rather have working people anyday than non-working.

You have to take victories where you can get them. Louisiana is already losing population BECAUSE of lack of jobs as it is. Cutting job programs will increase that number. And the lazy ones would simply get on welfare.
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