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re: President Trump suggests something was planted in the Epstein files…

Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:31 pm to
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Are you suggesting that files couldn’t be changed, manipulated, or destroyed in the four years Trump was out of office? Seriously?


Hey man, I know you’re a staunch defender, etc., and I’m not going to try to rehash everything. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

But you can also understand that it just looks a constantly shifting story that’s being re-invented over many weeks now.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11143 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:44 pm to
Trump banned JE from Mar a lago a full year before JE bought the island. The flight logs show he never went to the island. However, the flight logs do show Clinton went to that island over 2 dozen times.

Why is the media focused on Trump and not Slick Willy. JK I know why, they don't want to end up shooting themselves in the back of the head multiple times.
Posted by exdemocrat
Member since Aug 2020
173 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:05 pm to
The Grand Jury testimony in Epstein's 2006 FL case was released after Desantis signed a bill allowing the transcripts to be released.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Trump banned JE from Mar a lago a full year before JE bought the island.

This is not true.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:18 pm to
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The Grand Jury testimony in Epstein's 2006 FL case


All testimony related only to JE, just FWIW.

LINK

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In subsequent testimony, Detective Recarey, who died in 2018, recounted the now familiar deviant scheme in which Epstein enlisted his assistants and his alleged victims to recruit other underage girls to his homes for illicit massages. Recarey told the grand jury that two alleged victims had intercourse with Epstein without their consent while under the age of 18.

One alleged victim, Recarey testified, had gone to Epstein's mansion over 100 times, and had received $200 each time, and gifts, including a rented car for her use. He testified that on one occasion, Epstein had intercourse with her without her consent. "She screamed no," Recarey said when asked by a grand juror if the victim had asked Epstein to stop. Epstein stopped, apologized and paid her $1000, Recarey testified.


100x with a single victim. I only point this out for the "thousands of hours of footage" comments. If he was recording himself with victims, and he saw the victims dozens/hundreds of times, you're going to get a lot of stuff on tape.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10116 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:34 pm to
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Then why not release all of the files so we can see for ourselves?!?


Yes, let's release fake evidence about child rape. That will go well. No innocents will be harmed, I'm sure.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10116 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:35 pm to
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So why has he wasted years talking about something that’s a hoax then


He explained what the hoax was. It isn't what you are implying.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62559 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:39 pm to
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what elevated IQ people have been saying.
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it would have been released by prior administration
They too were protecting Israel.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10116 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:41 pm to
When Trump called it a hoax a couple weeks ago, he meant exactly what the rational people said he meant. The hoax is the false information put into the file, but this won't stop the emotional people from pretending that Trump means the entire trafficking ring was a hoax.

Even when suspending common sense and looking like a fool is the price to pay to "get Trump," too many are still willing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:44 pm to
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Yes, let's release fake evidence about child rape. That will go well. No innocents will be harmed, I'm sure.


How does John Q Public determine which information is fake and real?

We're just trusting the same admin who said there wasn't a list, Epstein killed himself, etc.?

And you don't need to view the actual incidents of rape to weigh the case. I have no idea what the actual Epstein accusers look like, but I can read their testimony or summaries of their testimony, then judge. That evidence should be released for all those named in the file.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9443 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:54 pm to
lacks documentation,,,
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:08 pm to
I posted about this yesterday. Epstein purchased the island in either 1997 or 1998

Trump remained friends with him for some time. After that. I documented a New Yorker article from 2002 where Trump made the quote about how Epstein likes the girls young or whatever.

The purported banning from Mar-A-Lago happened in 2007, almost a decade after Epstein bought the island
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7069 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:16 pm to
Using the adjective corrupt with demorats is duplicative. Demorats are corrupt. And evil.

FACT.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
12954 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:17 pm to
So he got IDed in them and now wants to make up the "It's not real, it's fake" excuse to cover for himself. Nice.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
12954 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:18 pm to
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All indications are that Trump never visited the island and actually banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after learning he was trying to recruit girls there.


Trump may be innocent, but the ridiculous notion that nothing happened outside of the island and makes him free and clear because he didn't go is ludicrous.

They didn't limit it to that location.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17055 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:19 pm to
I didn’t believe Trump really had much of note to do with Epstein’s machine of debauchery. Every time he comments on this he makes me more suspicious though:
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11143 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:28 pm to
You're right he banned JE before he bought the second neighboring island. Not the first island.

It is however true that the flight logs show he didn't go to the island. Either way, that doesn't really change the point of the question. There is proof Slick Willy went there over 2 dozens times and that Trump never went there. Question still remains, why no focus on Ole Bill?

Because they will end up dead if they do.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34927 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:29 pm to
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They didn't limit it to that location

Oh, you sound like you know a little bit more than the average Joe. So where else has it been confirmed that the same type of crimes that occurred on the island were committed? Because you say it with so much assertiveness and confidence.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
12954 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:31 pm to
Trump likely wasn't implicitly involved, but is likely somehow connected through their entire network. Again, as others have said, it doesn't mean he is guilty of anything, but given the guy is a piece of work when it comes to how he talked about women publicly in those days and still does at times to this day, people will hold him more accountable.

It may not mean anything in the long run, but it would hit him.

Also, why do we not believe it is the "accomplices" for Epstein that put it in their to stop Trump from releasing it? Israel, and many others are linked to it and since they have control in our government and plenty of Israel-first congress people, why is it assumed the democrats or Biden did it? The others have way more to lose for their cucking of this country.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34927 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Because they will end up dead if they do.

Seems like they’d want to make them dead BEFORE the damage is already done, eh?
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