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re: President Trump suggests something was planted in the Epstein files…

Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Scared of what?

I don't know because the coward won't release the files
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:51 pm to
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In subsequent testimony, Detective Recarey, who died in 2018, recounted the now familiar deviant scheme in which Epstein enlisted his assistants and his alleged victims to recruit other underage girls to his homes for illicit massages. Recarey told the grand jury that two alleged victims had intercourse with Epstein without their consent while under the age of 18.

One alleged victim, Recarey testified, had gone to Epstein's mansion over 100 times, and had received $200 each time, and gifts, including a rented car for her use. He testified that on one occasion, Epstein had intercourse with her without her consent. "She screamed no," Recarey said when asked by a grand juror if the victim had asked Epstein to stop. Epstein stopped, apologized and paid her $1000, Recarey testified.


There is more, grosser stuff in the link. That's just from the Florida state case.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:53 pm to
The so-called “Epstein files” as they occur present day, the same thing that various folks are calling for now, did not even exist upon Trump’s exit from office in January 2021. The final product was produced during Biden’s term.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:55 pm to
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The so-called “Epstein files” as they occur present day, the same thing that various folks are calling for now, did not even exist upon Trump’s exit from office in January 2021. The final product was produced during Biden’s term.


Oh, you sound like you know a little bit more than the average Joe. So where else has it been confirmed that the final product was produced during Biden's term?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:01 pm to
Mike Tracey has been debunking a bunch of myths.
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The Insane Multitude of Misconceptions About the Epstein Case

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Critical Pedo Theory.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:02 pm to
This discussion of “other locations of the same activities that occurred on Epstein Island” is clear to all to mean offenses involving any and all perpetrators besides Epstein, in connection with what’s described as a pedo ring, then go right ahead. Nobody’s asking for any files to be released involving Epstein’s own exclusive actions that took place in his own residence in south Florida. I’d have a hard time believing that you weren’t already fully aware of that fact, yet just still had to come back with something.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:05 pm to
This is a really bad look for Trump. I don't think he is guilty of anything, so why do all of his statement read like he is nervous about something?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:08 pm to
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This discussion of “other locations of the same activities that occurred on Epstein Island” is clear to all to mean offenses involving any and all perpetrators besides Epstein

Oh, well there isn't any evidence of that, generally.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:13 pm to
I hadn't really read about the GJ testimony until today.

Every civil and criminal case keeps reaffirming that Epstein did a ton of damage on his own and the various victims didn't really have anything to say about anyone else, except for some loose allegations against Prince Andrew. 2-3 criminal cases. Like 5+ civil cases. All come back to the same Epstein-exclusive conclusion.

The CTs are becoming harder and harder to support. When you see people like Vox pivot away from Epstein, that says something
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:19 pm to
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He’s protecting someone else.


That’s my thought as well. It’s vexing to think who it might be. Certainly no Democrat. Republicans? Is there anybody he respects (or fears) that much in the GOP? I don’t think so.

The only person I would think he’s covering for is someone on the international stage. Putin? The Saudi King? Someone in Qatar? They did give him a half-billion-dollar luxury jet. King Charles or Prince William? Trump likes the royal family.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Putin? The Saudi King? Someone in Qatar?


The closeness Epstein had with Israel makes these unlikely. If they had ANYthing to do with him, those rumors would have already been spread years ago.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:22 pm to
Well, one of the popular theories is this was a Mossad blackmail ring. I don't personally believe that after watching some pods the last few weeks, I think he was more of a business freelancer and any sexual blackmailing he did was on his own.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:23 pm to
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Oh, you sound like you know a little bit more than the average Joe. So where else has it been confirmed that the final product was produced during Biden's term?

Pretty much just basic intuition and common sense is enough horsepower for something like that. Considering the hysteria currently ongoing over the matter specifically centered around Trump (Biden never saw a second of this stuff re: releasing Epstein files), IMO obviously designed to obstruct and damage Trump politically, it would seem to logically follow that during his first term he’d have received at least a semblance of the same of similarly tailored Epstein hysteria. Why would they have just ignored it as a possible political weapon previously, when it was abundantly clear that they were intent on pulling out all the stops?

Additionally, I think it’s reasonable to say that if they had the ability to throw in the mix that “this is now the second time that Trump’s not released the Epstein records,” they certainly would.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 7:25 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Why would they have just ignored it as a possible political weapon previously, when it was abundantly clear that they were intent on pulling out all the stops?


They ignored it? This is silly MAGA nonsense retconning the past.

The DEMs forced Acosta out due to that NP deal years prior when he was an USA

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Acosta appeared on Friday at the White House with President Trump and announced his resignation.

"I do not think it is fair for this administration's Labor Department to have Epstein as its focus rather than the incredible economy we have today," Acosta said. "The right thing was to step aside."


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Top Democrats in Congress had called for Acosta's removal in the wake of new charges against multimillionaire Epstein by federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York.

Epstein is accused of sexually abusing underage girls as young as 14, some of whom he allegedly recruited in what prosecutors called a sex trafficking network.

In 2008, then-U.S. Attorney Acosta oversaw an agreement that permitted Epstein to plead guilty to some related charges but which critics have since called far too lenient.


Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:29 pm to
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Aren't they trying to do just this? It HAS to go through the courts.


The sealed grand jury testimony is all that has to go through the courts, which is a tiny fraction of the evidence collected. The rest is at the discretion of the president.

They can release most of it, but to pander to their base and act like they are doing something when they know it won’t lead to release, is all they are doing.

It’s quite sad how many of you are buying this charade hook, line and sinker, but then I remember who I am talking about.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:29 pm to
Slow fanni Brennan putting in work.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:30 pm to
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Pretty much just basic intuition and common sense is enough horsepower for something like that

Or more accurately Trump made it up out of thin air and told you to believe it and now you immediately believe it. You never held or stated this opinion prior to Trump telling you what to believe.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:33 pm to
Kind of like Tucker and several other conservative commentators telling you that it’s a vast Jewish conspiracy, the depths of which cannot be measured?
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:33 pm to
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They too were protecting Israel.


Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:36 pm to
Israel may have a role to play. Guess we'll never know because coward Don will never let the truth be known.
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