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re: Portable Mortgages? Charles Payne said it's time
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:17 pm to Powerman
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:17 pm to Powerman
quote:
While looking into portable mortgages, I was introduced to assumable mortgages. Thoughts on this?
quote:I've been involved in a couple of loan assumptions.
My ex has a side hustle selling people on these
It's not a terrible idea if the situation works out well for both parties
Not bad if stars align AND loan is with the right lender.
With rates higher right now if can pull it off with the seller's original interest rate (bank will likely add some, and some fees- they gonna get theirs) it has become more popular.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:18 pm to GRTiger
quote:Only certain loans have that ability written into the original note, generally government backed and you have to qualify same as you would for an original.
While looking into portable mortgages, I was introduced to assumable mortgages. Thoughts on this?
I’ve done a few, but people with sub-4 percent notes are only selling if they have to.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:21 pm to AubieinNC2009
quote:
Your new house. Some places in US have this but its rare. It would make it easier to move up in housing opening more starter homes.
The new house valued differently with new financial conditions for the borrower and different rate conditions for that given market. This still doesn’t make any sense. They wouldn’t be able to deregulate underwriting standards to achieve this.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:23 pm to FizzyPop
Most people would still need to pick up additional financing, as folks generally buy more house.
However, this will never work, because though it would be popular for the people, it would make bank shareholders less money.
However, this will never work, because though it would be popular for the people, it would make bank shareholders less money.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:28 pm to FizzyPop
charles payne is human shite. has taken a lot of money to push stuff he knows is crap. settled lawsuits so no debatable.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:29 pm to oldskule
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What lender would want to accept that? Serious money loss.
The debt holder has to stay with the lender, so it's potentially the difference between payoff value and continuing receiving interest for how ever many years. It could also be a hedge against riskier loans in their portfolio. I could see them being open to it for very reliable payers, depending on the opportunity cost.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:29 pm to GRTiger
quote:I’d assume if they were selling one house and buying another that the cash from the sale would be rolled straight to the new purchase or into something similar to a 1031 exchange if they weren’t buying the new house at the same time as the sale of the old house
Does the seller get the full home sale amount in cash in that scenario? Or just the equity?
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:33 pm to Tiger Prawn
Thanks. I kept reading more. Is this a correct way to think of it?
Mortgage balance: 250k (3%)
Home sale price: 500k
Home purchase price: 750k (250k down)
Mortgage balance: 500k (3%)
Or would the bottom line be:
Mortgage balance:
250k (3%)
250k (7%)
Mortgage balance: 250k (3%)
Home sale price: 500k
Home purchase price: 750k (250k down)
Mortgage balance: 500k (3%)
Or would the bottom line be:
Mortgage balance:
250k (3%)
250k (7%)
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:37 pm to Deek
quote:
Yeah, it's done in UK and Canada now
Are you sure about that? I was told something different by a colleague that just moved from Texas to Toronto. He says they force you to refinance every (3 years, 5 years, I don't remember the number) to whatever the rates are at that time. He's a Sr Director at one of the world's largest companies, he doesn't typically talk out of his arse.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:38 pm to Deek
Most Canadian mortgages are only 5 year terms, then they "renew."
Which is a why a lot of Canadians are panicking right now, as their sweet 2020/21 rates are about to renew at higher rates...
Which is a why a lot of Canadians are panicking right now, as their sweet 2020/21 rates are about to renew at higher rates...
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:39 pm to TigerAttorney
quote:
Then what’s the point of a 7% interest rate if everyone with a mortgage can do that?
Just lower the damn interest rate and grow the economy.
huh?
I haven't really considered all of the pluses and minuses of this proposal, but this is for already borrowed money.
New money borrowed will obviously have to be borrowed at the current rate.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:44 pm to moneyg
Assumable mortgages are interesting, as others have mentioned.
The real solution (if there’s even a problem here) would be for house prices to react negatively to rising rates but that’s just not happening with the short supply.
The real solution (if there’s even a problem here) would be for house prices to react negatively to rising rates but that’s just not happening with the short supply.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:52 pm to FizzyPop
System is antiquated as frick.
Have to do a new loan to get a divorcing spouse off in many cases.
Have to do a new loan to get a divorcing spouse off in many cases.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 2:55 pm to FizzyPop
Can I also get this on my car? Would be nice to get a new car and keep my 1.9% interest. 
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:01 pm to FizzyPop
quote:
Is Charles saying that if you have 3% with say 25 years left on your current home, you can sell it and move that 3% to your new home even if current rates are at 7?
Inflation: engaged
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:02 pm to TejasHorn
My current home was supposed to have a FHA mortgage which would have been an assumable loan.
Without digging more, I'm assuming the "portable" loan is the same as an "assumable"?
My current home was a foreclosure when I bought it and I can't remember why but an FHA loan was one of the best options. I ended up not going that route because of an insurance technicality and got an in house loan from the bank I was working with.
BUT, with an assumable mortgage all that means is that your current loan can be pass on but that's it. You aren't adding money to the loan. So if you have a $400,000 mortgage and and pay down $100,000 but sell the home for $600,000 then only the $300,000 remaining balance can be passed on to the buyer. So the buyer would have to come up with a hell of a lot more than 20% most likely. I guess unless it was a new loan and you loaned more than 80%.
Here's the kicker though, FHA loans at the time were not as good of rates. Like a good .5 pt higher or so. Again I don't remember all the details, but the selling point to pay the higher Interest was that it was "assumable". I laughed at the time, but in hindsight shite it could be valuable now.
Without digging more, I'm assuming the "portable" loan is the same as an "assumable"?
My current home was a foreclosure when I bought it and I can't remember why but an FHA loan was one of the best options. I ended up not going that route because of an insurance technicality and got an in house loan from the bank I was working with.
BUT, with an assumable mortgage all that means is that your current loan can be pass on but that's it. You aren't adding money to the loan. So if you have a $400,000 mortgage and and pay down $100,000 but sell the home for $600,000 then only the $300,000 remaining balance can be passed on to the buyer. So the buyer would have to come up with a hell of a lot more than 20% most likely. I guess unless it was a new loan and you loaned more than 80%.
Here's the kicker though, FHA loans at the time were not as good of rates. Like a good .5 pt higher or so. Again I don't remember all the details, but the selling point to pay the higher Interest was that it was "assumable". I laughed at the time, but in hindsight shite it could be valuable now.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:05 pm to FizzyPop
This should have happened long ago.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:11 pm to FizzyPop
Basically impossible under the current ABS structure.
Posted on 8/16/24 at 3:12 pm to FizzyPop
Portable Mortgage? Wtf is that
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