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re: Populism (and Dobbs) is the basis for "muh democracy" rants and ravings from the DEMs
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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See how easy that is?
I’m not the one trying to paint one side as being concerned with freedoms with no qualifiers. You’re being dishonest.
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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But you didn't and tried to turn it into a discussion on the policy itself.
You're implying intent to buttress your "authoritarian" argument. So you are discussing the policy , then trying to crawfish away from doing so.
Your flailing.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes, bringing up unborn children has no emotional genesis or intended impact. That's why topics about abortion are so easily discussed in the US
Are the unborn children not part of the discussion of rights?
You're drifting from deluded to dishonest now.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Small minds = binary thinking.
If it were only this simple and binary, we wouldn't need courts.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:48 am to Flats
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I’m not the one trying to paint one side as being concerned with freedoms with no qualifiers.
You need to re-read OP
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:48 am to Turbeauxdog
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You're implying intent to buttress your "authoritarian" argument. So you are discussing the policy , t
No I'm discussing the impacts of the policy, not the policy itself.
You won't even admit the competing policies are partisan, which is astounding
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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No I can admit areas where I'm for different levels.
So can everybody else. Are you stating the obvious for a particular reason?
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:50 am to Turbeauxdog
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Are the unborn children not part of the discussion of rights?
Not this particular one.
That's an emotional diversion.
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You're drifting
Says the person who just attempted an emotional diversion to avoid answering simple questions. I'll get back on track:
Did people across the United States have a right to an abortion before Dobbs?
Do people across the United States have a right to an abortion today?
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I don't have to remember it. First of all I've been saying the same thing for decades. And second of all we just lived it for the last two years. Democrats screaming about oh my God the vote might lead to a totalitarian government have no f****** sense of self-awareness because we just dealt with two years of totalitarian government. And the only thing that prevented it from being more totalitarian was being short to 2 senators
So just remember, while it is silly (democracy is a threat to democracy!) and primarily a talking point they've resigned to make (because they are facing slaughter), there are examples of an authoritarian path unfolding following a legitimate democratic vote occurring around the world relatively recently
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:50 am to Flats
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So can everybody else.
Patriots don't really like it, or HEAVILY curate what is permitted to be discussed
A dude literally posted he was for "limited rights and law and order" back to fricking back in this thread
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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They're concerned with guns, not liberty as a whole
These could literally be one and the same...
Remember, according to Biden and buddies,
a vote for a “MAGA” Republican is a vote for “semi-fascists.”
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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No, it's restricting.
You’re attempting to equate prohibiting felons from voting with requiring an ID to vote. You’re either a dumbass or dishonest. Possibly both.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Nobody? Many threads on this board celebrating the Hungarian social policy.
Your logical leaps have such great hang time. You saw threads on TD about Hungary, that you were surely the primary contributor in, and now you think that is on everyone’s radar? You think it’s the basis for democrats fear of republicans? Because I have heard it referenced zero times, including by the president who has called at least two press conferences on the topic.
The threats to democracy claims are NOT well founded. They are pathetic attempts to beat a drum to manipulate people, and here you are carrying their water. At best you are trying to rationalize why long standing engaged democrat voters still support the shite show of a party they may have once logically aligned with.
You are attempting to craft a storyline based on things you know and care about. The fact is the “muh democracy” movement is designed specifically for the purpose of democrat authoritarian rule. If you think otherwise, you are fricking stupid. Like really stupid. They are not trying to hide anything.
This is US politics: create a problem, spend money on it, take some money for yourself in the process, problems remain You are either ok with it or not, and the people that aren’t want different politicians. You want to use this board as a basis of national political opinion? Give us the report on our opinion of RINOs.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:this is stupid. I like policies that decrease the opportunity for shenanigans. Democrats like policies that increase the opportunity for shenanigans. Any pretense otherwise is b*******
of these policies skew very clearly on partisan lines, so there's a political-partisan reason for them.
You just like the policies that help your team so you want to pretend they're noble
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Patriots don't really like it, or HEAVILY curate what is permitted to be discussed
Says the guy who keeps trying to dictate what is or isn’t appropriate in this thread.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
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Small minds = binary thinking.
Guy #1 - Hello.
Guy #2 - I’m going to kill you!
Guy #1 - Let’s not have binary thinking, Let’s discuss your feelings.
Guy #1...
Posted on 11/5/22 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Patriots
TM
Posted on 11/5/22 at 12:04 pm to Flats
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You’re attempting to equate prohibiting felons from voting with requiring an ID to vote.
See this is exactly what I'm talking about with you trying to shift to evaluating the policies as opposed to what's actually being discussed.
Value judgments about the policy are utterly irrelevant to this discussion, as has been said multiple times in this thread.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Was there a national right to have an abortion pre-Dobbs? Yes
No. There wasn't.
Dobbs held that the caselaw that CREATED the so-called national "right" was incorrect.
The national "right" never existed under the Constitution, regardless of what prior courts said.
Just like "separate, but equal" was never correct/constitutional, regardless of Plessey.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 12:07 pm to OceanMan
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You saw threads on TD about Hungary, that you were surely the primary contributor in,
Want to bet?
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The fact is the “muh democracy” movement is designed specifically for the purpose of democrat authoritarian rule. If you think otherwise, you are fricking stupid.
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You want to use this board as a basis of national political opinion? Give us the report on our opinion of RINOs.
Outside of Patriot circles, there isn't really a single view of RINOs and it's shifting because it will be policy or politician-based.
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