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re: Police go to wrong house, shoot and kill homeowner
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:51 pm to KAGTASTIC
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:51 pm to KAGTASTIC
quote:
If what Derek Chauvin did was murder, this is definitely murder.
Derek Chauvin is innocent.
Still, things can be tragic and incompetent without being murder. Calling it murder doesn't accomplish anything. It was misplaced self-defense by incompetent LE.
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Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:51 pm to roguetiger15
quote:
murder
Not murder. Mistake.
Dangerous job, try it sometimes.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:52 pm to VolcanicTiger
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things can be tragic and incompetent without being murder.
Well I imagine whatever state this occurred in defines murder as intentionally killing someone, which is exactly what happened here
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Calling it murder doesn't accomplish anything
No it puts the only criminal in this scenario in jail.
What other violent criminals do you believe that arresting/jailing them "doesn't accomplish anything)?
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:53 pm to Original Bayou Boy
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Not murder. Mistake. Dangerous job, try it sometimes.
It’s not “I’m gonna kill someone tonight” and then you do kinda murder.
It does seem like the “I’m a dumbass and did something stupid that got someone else killed” kinda murder.
Likely manslaughter.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:53 pm to Original Bayou Boy
quote:
Not murder. Mistake.
Dangerous job, try it sometimes.
Well good to see that after the Trump indictment and Perry conviction died down, bootlicking is back in fashion on here
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:56 pm to TuaDezNutzOnYoChin
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What do y'all think?
It's all a terrible misunderstanding by all parties.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:56 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Derek Chauvin is innocent.
Evidently not
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:57 pm to TuaDezNutzOnYoChin
just a few bad apples! 95% of cops are good!
Posted on 4/15/23 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You may want to "rethink your post.
So they never announced it to the innocent homeowner directly?
You've watched enough tv to know that what they did was "procedure".
You think announcing who they are minutes before when it's clear the homeowner didn't hear is enough?
The homeowner obviously heard the knock on the door...he got up!
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:00 pm to VolcanicTiger
quote:
Derek Chauvin is innocent.
Speaking of, there is new old video out on him that CNN trotted out.
It shows Chauvin using the exact same technique multiple times over many years. No one ever died.
This shows that in his mind that this was a normal thing and not particularly dangerous
and proves that he did not intend to kill St. George.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:00 pm to coachcrisp
quote:
You may want to "rethink your post.
Naw. They fricked up and then quintupled down the frickups by killing an innocent person.
The cops were trespassing on property they had no legal right to be on. They had already violated this homeowner's rights before they murdered him.
If they aren't tried sincerely, it shows the real 2-tier justice system in America. LEO get to break the law, murder people, etc. without fear of reprisals.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:02 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:fify
It does seem like the “I’m an overly scared, window licking retard and did something stupid that got someone else killed” kinda murder.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:03 pm to TuaDezNutzOnYoChin
I hope this man’s family does what needs doing.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:06 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I just do not understand how, when given 2 options:
1. Completely innocent homeowner breaking no laws
2. LEO who were illegally trespassing and creating a dangerous situation
People choose to defend option 2 instead of option 1
1. Completely innocent homeowner breaking no laws
2. LEO who were illegally trespassing and creating a dangerous situation
People choose to defend option 2 instead of option 1
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:08 pm to coachcrisp
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AMEN brother!
The fools who are belittling the LEOs on boards like this one, don't have a clue about what it's like to be a patrol officer, especially at night!
If someone watched this video without knowing the outcome, they may have done the exact same thing. It’s extremely easy to know how to respond if you know the outcome before you’re in the situation.
Regardless of who’s on the other side of the door, it’s extremely foolish to come outside with a firearm aimed at anyone without knowing who is there.
Between ride alongs and use of force simulators, you can gain a true respect for the decisions that have to be made split-second.
For the downvoters, I stick to my initial statement: I’m not going to make a judgment call on them until more pans out. Let a full investigation take place. Seems like a level-headed approach.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:It's obvious that all this is going over your head. No wonder you feel that you have "Simple Solutions to Complex Probs"
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The problem is they don't know what they're about to encounter when they walk up to the door of a house
THEN GO TO THE RIGHT frickING HOUSE
That's not the point
quote:
More LEOs are killed responding to domestic violence calls than ANY other call!
The domestic abuse situation was at ANOTHER HOUSE
That's not the point, either
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:10 pm to TerryDawg03
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Regardless of who’s on the other side of the door, it’s extremely foolish to come outside with a firearm aimed at anyone without knowing who is there.
I actually agree if you think there’s an attempted intruder, it’s much safer to not open the door. However, I still think the cops are culpable. No excuse for going to the wrong house in the first place.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:11 pm to coachcrisp
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THEN GO TO THE RIGHT frickING HOUSE
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That's not the point
Clearly it wasn't for these idiots
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The domestic abuse situation was at ANOTHER HOUSE
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That's not the point, either
If no DV was being committed, then yes, that's the point. You can't bring up how DV situations are dangerous (which they are) and then try to loop that to a scenario where DV wasn't a variable (since they weren't at the house they were called for DV).
quote:
It's obvious that all this is going over your head
I sue police for similar idiocy, bubba.
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So which elements of "murder" were present? That will be a shorter list than a list of the elements that were missing.
Well I imagine whatever state this occurred in defines murder as intentionally killing someone, which is exactly what happened here
"But muh ACAB! yOu MuSt Be A bOoTlIcKeR11!!"
quote:
No it puts the only criminal in this scenario in jail.
What other violent criminals do you believe that arresting/jailing them "doesn't accomplish anything
I call your post "murder" then (although it's more like a limp-wristed serve at a gay resort sand volleyball game). since your post is murder, you should go to jail, and that accomplishes something.
Same logic.
This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/15/23 at 1:11 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:For sure, they should catch all kinds of hell for this, it just isn't murder.
I actually agree if you think there’s an attempted intruder, it’s much safer to not open the door. However, I still think the cops are culpable. No excuse for going to the wrong house in the first place.
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