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People that get worked up over the technical use of the term "pedophile"

Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:46 am
Are the ones so quick to point out that fricking a 14 year old technically isnt pedophilia hiding something? Seems they may have some skeletons in the closet the way they're so defensive over people screwing 14 year olds being called a pedo.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:50 am to
This thread is going to be a Bat Signal for certain posters.
Posted by TheMuffinMan
Arlington, VA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:51 am to
I generally take no issue with people criticizing misleading or imprecise language. It’s not really helpful to call every sexual deviant a pedophile — it cries wolf and dilutes the sting and stigma of the word, as we’ve seen with “racist” in recent years.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:53 am to
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This thread is going to be a Bat Signal for certain posters. ?



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Posted by dena
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:53 am to
It is a difference without distinction.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:54 am to
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Are the ones so quick to point out that fricking a 14 year old technically isnt pedophilia hiding something?




Probably not. But you should consider hiding your ignorance of the English language. Words mean what they mean, not whatever the hell you want them to mean.


Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:56 am to
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It is a difference without distinction.



Is it? I’m no expert, but i believe that there would be a huge difference in say, a guy hooking up with a girl who is 16 and mature looking/well-developed who perhaps lied about her age.. vs molesting a child who hasn’t even hit puberty yet.. one is illegal, the other is inexcusable under any circumstance, and disgusting.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:57 am to
Here they come.
Posted by TheMuffinMan
Arlington, VA
Member since Apr 2011
407 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:57 am to
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It is a difference without distinction.


I don’t see how that’s true. Puberty is much less arbitrary than a codified age of consent. Sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children is not a biological imperative and is culturally rejected. This very website ogles minors routinely.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:59 am to
You don't understand the context of the controversy. Zach shall explain it again.
There were some Catholic priests who liked to have sex with teenage boys. That would make them 'gay'. But we cannot vilify gays because it's forbidden. So, we re-labeled the priests with the word 'pedophile'. So, that means 'gays = good' while 'pedophiles = bad.' Problem solved.

If the priests were diddling 14 year old girls then they would be 'very bad heteros'. But they didn't bother little girls because they were gays.

Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16214 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:04 am to
Personally, I believe 14 is too young. I also believe that 16 is too young. I think some of our states have laws that legalize marriage of 16 yr olds, with parental consent.


Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:04 am to
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Here they come.



Elaborate, I’m all ears.

Be specific.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2374 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Are the ones so quick to point out that fricking a 14 year old technically isnt pedophilia hiding something? Seems they may have some skeletons in the closet the way they're so defensive over people screwing 14 year olds being called a pedo.


Some people just like the English language and bristle when they see it being misused. Words mean things. If you're into 8 year olds, you're a pedophile. If you're into 15 year olds, you're an ephebophile. I've never understood why people get so pissy when others point out the difference.
Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:07 am to
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There were some Catholic priests who liked to have sex with teenage boys. That would make them 'gay'. But we cannot vilify gays because it's forbidden. So, we re-labeled the priests with the word 'pedophile'.



I dont think the problem most rational people have with priests is that theyre into men- i think it’s the fact that they diddled little kids... a lot of them were pre-pubescent (no link), but that’s a problem whether the kids were male or female.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:18 am to
Professionally, I have treated pedophiles and other sexual deviants. I could write on this topic for quite some time. However, there is really no point. They are all sexual predators with different target groups for any number of "reasons."
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26749 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:38 am to
Some people like accuracy in language, especially something as important as criminal justice.

Just as "murderer" doesn't cover ever person that kills another person, "pedophile" doesn't cover every person that breaks consent laws.

I have no problem with our current consent laws and an adult (male or female) that has sex with a 14-year-old should go to prison. Using the correct definition doesn't change any of that.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:39 am to
The only people that defend sex offenders are sex offenders.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:44 am to
Islam doesn't see a difference in either; both are okie dokie
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:44 am to
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Sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children is not a biological imperative and is culturally rejected.

THAT is the big difference and it is a real difference

age of consent is a very difficult (and even more icky) subject, but never has AOC been accepted prior to puberty (at least in recorded history of civlization)
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