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re: Penn 18th Dist. Lamb 49.8% ; Saccone 49.6% LAMB declares victory

Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:13 pm to
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Terrible to compare a presidential election to a special election before the mid-terms


Disagree. Trump and Biden both just visited this small district to drum up votes.

In general, yes, totally agree with you. But this special election for a House seat, with tens of millions of dollars pouring in and POTUS making a visit, is far from a typical special election.

+20 for Trump in 2016, this district should've been a slam dunk for GOP tonight.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:14 pm to
Murphy resigned in disgrace. Staunch pro life stance and tries to get girlfriend to have an abortion.

That is what got us here
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11380 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:14 pm to
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oughly 3100 uncounted absentee ballots from Washington, Greene, and Westmoreland plus the the still uncounted Westmoreland precints



I want it to... but I really don't think it will produce enough. If my LSU math is correct, I think Lamb holds by 150 votes. I hope I am wrong.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:14 pm to
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Another loss to the GOP. Midterms will be a blood bath. And Trump gave us no meaningful illegal alien reform.


This would be the 1st special Election congressional loss for the GOP since Trump took office FWIW. The score is GOP 5 and if Lamb wins, Dems 1 in congressional races.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:15 pm to
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Disagree. Trump and Biden both just visited this small district to drum up votes.

Didn't see either one on the ballot.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:16 pm to
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I spoke to a bunch of House Rs at the vote tonight abt what it means for their majority in the mid-terms if they lose tonight. A lot of them were pretty dismissive. Call it denial, call it spin, but Rs are def gonna try to downplay this race tomorrow, per my sourcing.
Stay sleepy LINK
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:17 pm to
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CNN: Estimates the two outstanding county will boost Saccone by 200 votes. Extrapolating 2600 uncounted absentee ballots, Saccone needs 63% of the absentees to win.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102701 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:17 pm to
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roughly 3100 uncounted absentee ballots from Washington, Greene, and Westmoreland plus the the still uncounted Westmoreland precints


Seems that would favor Soccone?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74169 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:17 pm to
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In general, yes, totally agree with you. But this special election for a House seat, with tens of millions of dollars pouring in and POTUS making a visit, is far from a typical special election.

+20 for Trump in 2016, this district should've been a slam dunk for GOP tonight.
A few things.

1) This special election is following the sitting house member of the district resigning in disgrace from a sex/paid abortion scandal. Research shows that in elections following a scandal/resignation in congressional races, the party challenging the seat does a bit better.

2) Conor lamb is not your average dem...he is conservative on social issues and played a perfect campaign in a historically democratic but conservative area of PA.

3) The republican candidate is tied to corruption from the previous governor, and he is objectively a terrible campaigner.

"All politics is local"
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:18 pm to
Democrats almost always mysteriously win the close ones, especially in bluish states

Best pickpockets are democrats
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14986 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:18 pm to
Sacconne may win narrowly with Repub counties absentee votes. Gonna be within 250 votes either way.

Conor Lamb favors strong background checks, raising the age to 21, and banning some assault weapons. Although he does not like abortion, he votes pro-choice in the first trimester (Roe V Wade). He is a moderate Democrat. He is not a conservative on most issues. He didn't campaign against Trump and he said he would have voted FOR the tax cut. He also said the tax cut was too high for corporations (he favored 25% not 21%) and households whose income is higher than $400K (he favored no cut at all for these people).
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:18 pm to
If there are truly 3100 absentee ballots left to be counted for Westmoreland, Greene, and Washington counties then Lamb just like Toddy is a loser
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
83976 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:18 pm to
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Disagree.
Then you are either inescapably stupid, or you don't understand basic voting habits and tendencies.

For example, 1)which party usually gets out to vote in a mid-term? 2)Is it typically consistent with Presidential elections?




Pssst! The answers are:

1) The opposite party of the sitting president

2) Always heavily skewed to the opposition party to the President (94, 98, 06, 10, 14)
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74169 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:19 pm to
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The score is GOP 5
what were the five?

South carolina, Kansas, Georgia, what else?
Posted by CaptChandler
Polis
Member since Sep 2016
2427 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:20 pm to
I believe one of the last ones you are thinking of is Greg “The Body Slam” Gianforte’s win in Montana.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11380 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:21 pm to
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He is a moderate Democrat. He is not a conservative on most issues. He didn't campaign against Trump and he said he would have voted FOR the tax cut. He also said the tax cut was too high for corporations (he favored 25% not 21%) and households whose income is higher than $400K (he favored no cut at all for these people).


That is exactly the plan the Democrats are pimping for 2018. He is full democrat on Taxes.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:21 pm to
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Lamb carries Allegheny County absentees by 841 votes.


Good Toddy. I resoect that you are still on the job!
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5132 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:22 pm to
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This would be the 1st special Election congressional loss for the GOP since Trump took office FWIW. The score is GOP 5 and if Lamb wins, Dems 1 in congressional races.



Roy Moore says hi!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:22 pm to
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I spoke to a bunch of House Rs at the vote tonight abt what it means for their majority in the mid-terms if they lose tonight. A lot of them were pretty dismissive. Call it denial, call it spin, but Rs are def gonna try to downplay this race tomorrow, per my sourcing.


I mean how are you supposed to respond to that question? “We better start fighting for open borders, more welfare, more taxes and some form of skin color genitalia rights or we will lose the 2018 midterms”?

If the Dems win the midterms it will be because they run more conservative candidates than the national party platform like Lamb tonight.

Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82339 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:23 pm to
He's a raging conservative compared to Pelosi.

She will cuts his balls off if he gets to D.C.
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