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re: Parents of school shooters being arrested
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:16 am to jrobic4
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:16 am to jrobic4
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If the kid has a history of street racing, DWI, and has a suspended license-yes!
No ifs needed. Yes parents are responsible… civilly at least
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 6:17 am
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:21 am to faraway
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the FBI knew he was making threats, why didn't they prevent the shooting? Seems they are as responsible as the father.
In my opinion if it gets to that point there needs to be mandatory therapy and I would have grounded him from any access to a weapon unsupervised. Ultimately it's the parents responsible, but the fbi is useless and untrustworthy today.
I can envision a scenario where a parent would not believe the FBI because they pubically lie so much now. So I will hold my judgment until I know more.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 8:46 am
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:36 am to sleepytime
So father is arrested because he let the kid posses a gun. But kid is being convicted as an adult. So if he’s old enough to be convicted as an adult, then how can you say he couldn’t posses a gun?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:51 am to sleepytime
quote:Though I didn't follow in great detail, it seemed to me the MI parents fell victim to a kangaroo process.
What's the PB's take on this?
Colin Gray seems to be a different story. Assuming the news is accurate (at this stage, frankly I hate doing that), after the FBI was involved in an investigation of his son for apparently credible firearms threats, Colin Gray gave his son an AR-15 as a gift last Christmas. If that's true, Colin Gray should be prosecuted.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:56 am to sleepytime
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It seems like this could be a slippery slope and selectively being used.
Jury pools are diff depending on where you live.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:59 am to faraway
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if the FBI knew he was making threats, why didn't they prevent the shooting? Seems they are as responsible as the father.
What kind of dictatorial powers do you want the state to have? It is the responsibility of parents to ensure their kids are properly raised.
What do people really want the FBI to do in a case where there is a suspicion but no laws broken? Do you want them to seize this man’s property off mere allegation? Lock the kid up? What is it that law enforcement could do besides point out to the parents that they have a serious problem that needs to be addressed?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:01 am to DMAN1968
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I'm seriously doubting the parenting skills of his folks.
The mom is a drug addict with a long rap sheet.
This kid would fit the left’s definition of being oppressed and committing crimes.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 7:04 am
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:05 am to NC_Tigah
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Colin Gray should be prosecuted.
I don’t disagree although if we are splitting hairs I think the better course of action is that he be sued and then spend the rest of his life giving every penny above his basic needs to the families of the victims.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:05 am to sleepytime
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Parents of school shooters being arrested
I agree it is a slippery slope. A good parent that properly spanks their children will eventually get wrapped up in this. Also, a person who doesn't lock up all their guns will be accused of "giving them permission by giving them access" for keeping some handy for security purposes.
Unfortunately we have some many "Karens" making decisions that we cant make reasonable laws that have any kind of slippery slope potential.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 7:07 am
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:23 am to udtiger
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I am as 2A as it gets, but giving an AR15 to a minor that had already posted threats that prompted an FBI inquiry rises to the level of criminal cuplability.
I think we also need to hold the LEOs and School Administrators accountable also. If you have a child that made a credible threat that involved the FBI that had to be aware of the situation.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:29 am to SixthAndBarone
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So father is arrested because he let the kid posses a gun. But kid is being convicted as an adult. So if he’s old enough to be convicted as an adult, then how can you say he couldn’t posses a gun?
Excellent point.
It does seem like the law wants to eat its cake and have it too.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:31 am to Robin Masters
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he be sued and then spend the rest of his life giving every penny above his basic needs to the families of the victims.
Doesn't sound like that would be much.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:33 am to SidewalkDawg
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Do you want them to seize this man’s property off mere allegation?
That wouldn't have done any good.
The idiot bought the kid the murder weapon AFTER he lied to the FBI about the kid having access to guns.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:52 am to sleepytime
I have a few takes on this. Parental absence is an issue. I never gave a fuk if my boys cared for me being overly involved in their day to day. They were my responsibility, and the shite they did in public reflected on them and our family. I was lucky to have exceptional boys, but it wasn't for lack of being immersed and vested in all facets of their life, keeping them active and involved, and educated on the fuked up world around them.
It's obvious this kid was mentally fragile based on the pronouns. I suspect that the parents were not full time "parents" guiding this kid. Are they at fault? Yes.
Then we hear that this kid was on the FBI watch list or whatever since 2023. Did they advise the parents? Had they sought out a means to address their concerns through the parents along with local authorities, then this "could" have been avoided. So, in my opinion, the government may be complicit as well.
It's obvious this kid was mentally fragile based on the pronouns. I suspect that the parents were not full time "parents" guiding this kid. Are they at fault? Yes.
Then we hear that this kid was on the FBI watch list or whatever since 2023. Did they advise the parents? Had they sought out a means to address their concerns through the parents along with local authorities, then this "could" have been avoided. So, in my opinion, the government may be complicit as well.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:55 am to Lizardman2
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Then we hear that this kid was on the FBI watch list or whatever since 2023. Did they advise the parents? Had they sought out a means to address their concerns through the parents along with local authorities, then this "could" have been avoided. So, in my opinion, the government may be complicit as well.
Make no mistake, that's why this particular guy is being charged.
I guarantee you the FBI is livid with that idiot right now. Because they look incompetent AGAIN.
And I wouldn't be surprised if someone did try to sue for wrongful death, and that charging the Dad is a move to mitigate that when it happens.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:05 am to sleepytime
I was raised not to bring any dishonor upon my parents. That was a huge guide in my life and it continues today even after both of my parents have gone on….
The 5th commandment….
“Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you” Exodus 20:12
The 5th commandment….
“Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you” Exodus 20:12
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:06 am to sleepytime
If your child murders people, I think your child has mental problems
Hell, no, the parents should spend 15 years in prison for something another person did
It’s crazy the Democrats wanna take our children from us if they want to change gender.
And then they lock up parents child turns out evil?
I think it’s all freaking terrible
Hell, no, the parents should spend 15 years in prison for something another person did
It’s crazy the Democrats wanna take our children from us if they want to change gender.
And then they lock up parents child turns out evil?
I think it’s all freaking terrible
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 8:08 am
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:09 am to sleepytime
What about arresting every parent of every child that shots another person during a drug deal that goes bad.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:26 am to the808bass
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What about inner city parents who knows their kids are a member of a violent gang, has a weapon illegally, and they kill somebody?
How about they buy him the gun for Christmas, knowing he’s in a gang?
They should absolutely bunk with their gangbanging kids in prison.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:05 am to the808bass
This happened to me… I was 16 hanging out on a lake drinking, drove home to get clothes to stay out there. My mom smelled alcohol and wouldn’t let me leave. We talked for a few hours about the risks, consequences, years of kids getting in wrecks on that stretch of road. Last time I ever tried drinking and driving.
I grew up with a lot of freedom but also a lot of eyes since both parents grew up there and their friends kids were my circle.
Point, parents can sense something’s off and if they ignore it, ( buy a gun) they are also responsible.
I grew up with a lot of freedom but also a lot of eyes since both parents grew up there and their friends kids were my circle.
Point, parents can sense something’s off and if they ignore it, ( buy a gun) they are also responsible.
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