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PA Soctus rules that Dems MUST regain house
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:44 pm
Districts must be redrawn by end of next month. Or the 4 dems on the SCOTUS will issue their own
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:47 pm to Jjdoc
Desperation has no bounds.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:51 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
That map "shall consist of: congressional districts composed of compact and contiguous territory; as nearly equal in population as practicable; and which do not divide any county, city, incorporated town, borough, township, or ward, except where necessary to ensure equality of population
seems reasonable
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:56 pm to Jjdoc
Muh gerrymandering!!
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:58 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
What the hell is this idiocy muh? Gerrymandering is done by both parties.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 1:58 pm to Jjdoc
SCOTUS will make this call and the Dems won't like it. Obama cost the Dems not only 1200 nationwide seats but also allowed Republicans to re-gerrymander the districts the Dems had previously gerrymandered. Spoils of war.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:00 pm to Jjdoc
These districts should be mathematically derived. It is foolish to expect politicos to draw up equitable representations by feel, which appears to be the way it's done. This "feels" like it will result in victory for our side by the majority party.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:00 pm to Lsupimp
quote:
SCOTUS will make this call and the Dems won't like it.
apparently not
quote:
But several legal experts and GOP operatives said they don’t expect the Supreme Court to intervene. Unlike recent partisan gerrymander cases out of North Carolina and Wisconsin, the Pennsylvania case deals with state law, not federal.
“There doesn’t appear that there’s much recourse, so we’re just hosed,” said Mark Harris, a Republican consultant based in the state. “[Democrats are] going to steal a bunch of seats because this is a straight power grab by a partisan Supreme Court.”
since JJ is incapable of providing links
LINK
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:01 pm to Lsupimp
Most minority districts are configured to insure a minority candidate getting elected. This will not result in what they think.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:06 pm to Salmon
quote:
seems reasonable
I'm sure you do find it reasonable.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:07 pm to BugAC
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:10 pm to Salmon
What he is saying is stop pretending that you are some middle of the road conservative.
Step out of the closet.... We have already peeped in and see where you actually hang your hat
Step out of the closet.... We have already peeped in and see where you actually hang your hat
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:12 pm to Jjdoc
Nah. I'm fine right where I'm at. I know my views.
Is this a power grab by the Dems? Absolutely. If the GOP can redraw the maps according to that and it is accepted, then great. Gerrymandering is shady as frick in this country and I will applaud even shallow attempts at fixing it.
Is this a power grab by the Dems? Absolutely. If the GOP can redraw the maps according to that and it is accepted, then great. Gerrymandering is shady as frick in this country and I will applaud even shallow attempts at fixing it.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:16 pm to Salmon
Hopefully there is backlash to this and it puts Casey's Senate seat in play to be a GOP flip this fall.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:16 pm to Salmon
Thanks for the link . Republicans have gerrymandered the hell out of America. It’s one of the few wins they had from 2008-2017. I’ll deep dive this later and figure it out because I just assumed it would get kicked upstairs.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:17 pm to Salmon
quote:President
seems reasonable
CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT. E.V.
Donald J. Trump
Republican
2,970,733
48.2%
20 EVs
Hillary Clinton
Democrat
2,926,441
47.5%
0 EVs
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:18 pm to Jjdoc
PA is a battleground state in national elections. The GOP holding 13 of the state’s 18 House seats is gerrymandering at its worst.
Both sides are guilty of this, but what the GOP did in PA is beyond the pale. Good on the court for shooting it down, finally.
Both sides are guilty of this, but what the GOP did in PA is beyond the pale. Good on the court for shooting it down, finally.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:21 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:
Both sides are guilty of this
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:40 pm to Jjdoc
Shocking that when you gerrymander to create black districts, you are left with ----- white districts.
Hard to believe I know, but apparently this surprised some people.
Hard to believe I know, but apparently this surprised some people.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 2:42 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Pennsylvania is described as “Pittsburgh in the west, Philly in the east, and Alabama in between.”
If you are required to draw minority-majority districts, by definition you are being forced to heavily concentrate Dem voters into a few districts because minorities vote overwhelmingly Dem.
Don’t demand set-aside seats that dilute your voting strength then whine when you win fewer seats.
If you are required to draw minority-majority districts, by definition you are being forced to heavily concentrate Dem voters into a few districts because minorities vote overwhelmingly Dem.
Don’t demand set-aside seats that dilute your voting strength then whine when you win fewer seats.
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