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re: PA and LA have introduced some new gun control laws...
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Seems like that would seriously complicate the manufacturing process and require a hell of a lot of retrofitting or overhaul of the machinery in order accomplish.
I guess those proposing the bill didn't really think of how cumbersome all that would be, huh?
they do. any bill that makes guns or ammunition more expensive to manufacture, purchase, or own is a win. I saw a proposed bill that wanted all guns to STAMP a serial number on a bullet when you pull the trigger.. everytime I go shooting Im like.. you know what would make this better and easier? if my gun had a built in printer and it was connected to the cloud to pull from a large database of serials.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 12:55 pm
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:52 pm to teke184
quote:Truth.
How about not forcing people to unarm themselves into walking into establishments in this state?
Can’t get the gun stolen out of the car if you stop forcing people to leave it in the fricking car.
I recently bought a Ruger LCP Max .380 and I have to leave it in my truck when I go into stores because I don’t have a CCL yet.
Thanks for nothing you fricking pussies in the LA legislature because you had the votes to override the veto last year but chickened out when it mattered.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:53 pm to finchmeister08
Who introduced the LA one?
I'm assuming both democrats on these, but TX is showing us that there are plenty of weak knee'd republicans to assume
I'm assuming both democrats on these, but TX is showing us that there are plenty of weak knee'd republicans to assume
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:53 pm to upgrayedd
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You think someone should go to jail for having something stolen from them?
It’s not just “something.” Do you think a parent should be culpable if their kid finds their gun and kills someone with it? What if the son found the gun in Dads unlocked vehicle? Still yes? Now why would culpability go away if the same thing happened but it wasn’t a child?
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:55 pm to SUB
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How is a gun getting taken from an unlocked vehicle much different?
Lots of bros are going to be going to jail.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:55 pm to SUB
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It’s not just “something.” Do you think a parent should be culpable if their kid finds their gun and kills someone with it? How is a gun getting taken from an unlocked vehicle much different?
That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about a criminal stealing something then using it in a crime.
If a criminal steals my unlocked car then uses it in a crime, should I be charged as well?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:56 pm to SUB
Because you are responsible for your own kids, not thieving bastards to get you to make “unplanned donations.”
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:58 pm to finchmeister08
Your honor, it wasn’t unlocked. They jimmied it open.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:58 pm to upgrayedd
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If a criminal steals my unlocked car then uses it in a crime, should I be charged as well?
That’s a good point. But see my edits above. It’s a quandary. What is considered negligent and what isn’t?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:59 pm to upgrayedd
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You think someone should go to jail for having something stolen from them?
What does being held personally liable for negligence have to do with going to jail?
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:07 pm to finchmeister08
So what if someone steals your unlocked car and uses it in a crime that hurts people then does the car owner also assume liability for damages? What is the difference?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:07 pm to teke184
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Because you are responsible for your own kids, not thieving bastards to get you to make “unplanned donations.”
That's a fair point. So is there any point in which a person should face consequences for negligence when guns are not secured and taken and used to commit a crime...outside of what was already discussed?
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:07 pm to SUB
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That’s a good point. But see my edits above. It’s a quandary. What is considered negligent and what isn’t?
Criminalizing someone for being the victim of theft is a bad precedent. That route could land millions of people in jail.
The ultimate issue is that while DA's are letting violent criminals walk, they'll also be in the business of prosecuting and locking up people that have been victimized by those same criminals.
That's the practical reality of the current political climate.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:09 pm to patnuh
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The door was locked officer. I’m positive.
I had a truck stolen a few yrs back, and you start to definitely second guess if you did or not. Obviously I said yes, but days after you start to second guess yourself some. Playing it thru your head on if you pressed it and remember hearing it. Along with stuff you may have left in it. Not my first vehicle stolen or broken into so I tend to not keep much in it to worry about replacing. I think the most expensive was my back up driving sunglasses.
I pretty go almost as far as the people CA, but don't leave the windows and tail open. Ha.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:11 pm to finchmeister08
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Louisiana bill requires a firearm owner to assume liability for damages if their firearm is stolen from an unlocked vehicle and used in a crime/felony.
Wtf
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:17 pm to tiger91
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how can it be proven that the gunowner hadn't locked their car??
You can't prove a negative.
Now what if it was locked with the windows down?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:21 pm to brass2mouth
Pretty sure the sponsor of this bill is a black Dem who basically wants to share the blame for what his constituents do.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:22 pm to finchmeister08
quote:Can we make the tire and motor oil companies liable for providing the car, too?
Louisiana bill requires a firearm owner to assume liability for damages if their firearm is stolen from an unlocked vehicle and used in a crime/felony.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:23 pm to Taxing Authority
My guess is that they are trying to make gas stations liable for environmental damage caused by lefties throwing Molotovs.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:31 pm to finchmeister08
quote:So even if you did lock your vehicle, now you'd have to lawyer up to argue that the criminal jimmied the lock when their victim inevitably sues you. Nothing like Democrat politicians protecting felons while fricking over the law abiding working class.
Louisiana bill requires a firearm owner to assume liability for damages if their firearm is stolen from an unlocked vehicle and used in a crime/felony.
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