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re: OSHA Mandate Related - Just got out of a large industry group meeting
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:36 pm to Oates Mustache
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:36 pm to Oates Mustache
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in their opinion ultimately OSHA will prevail and this will be the new norm going forward.
Yes we get it, anything lord Biden says is truth. He just snapped the mandate into existence.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:36 pm to Oates Mustache
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Without going into extreme detail, and not to the surprise of many here, they basically said that in their opinion ultimately OSHA will prevail
I strongly doubt this is the case. I'd bet those lawyers said what they were paid to say.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:40 pm to Oates Mustache
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Without going into extreme detail, and not to the surprise of many here, they basically said that in their opinion ultimately OSHA will prevail and this will be the new norm going forward.
Do you mind supplementing this with more detail, particularly on the legal side? It’s hard to gauge how to process your post (and I trust your representation of the call and your opinion in the OSHA-sphere generally), without knowing what the legal basis for that position is.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:45 pm to Oates Mustache
When will the Welfare vaxx mandate come down?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:53 pm to CHSTigersFan
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When will the Welfare vaxx mandate come down?
The same time the USPS and other protected segments of society are required to be vaccinated…..probably not gonna happen because many of those people are minorities who are vaccine hesitant and they’re Dim voters.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:57 pm to Indefatigable
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Do you mind supplementing this with more detail, particularly on the legal side? It’s hard to gauge how to process your post (and I trust your representation of the call and your opinion in the OSHA-sphere generally), without knowing what the legal basis for that position is.
Their belief (though as I said there were a few that strongly disagreed within their group of around 20) was that the GDC has been thoroughly tested and as such will allow this to remain intact because of Covid being classified as a "grave danger". So companies will either choose to allow testing, by way of a proctored test review, paid for by the employee, or that employee will have to take the vaccine.
I wasn't as shocked by this as I've heard this as an argument several times already. I'm more shocked at the 5th circuit being taunted by osha.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:59 pm to Oates Mustache
quote:to who? The vaccinated? Then the vaccine is shot if you still need protecting by forcing other to get the vaccine that doesn’t protect.
Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:07 pm to Oates Mustache
Lol. They think that. Doesn't mean they are right or can predict pushback. And pushback has already begun officially.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 pm to Oates Mustache
Yeah… if lawyers didn’t vehemently defend their position that they are paid for they wouldn’t be very good at their job. Did you expect them to tell you something different?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:10 pm to Oates Mustache
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Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment.
dangerous for whom? themselves?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:11 pm to imjustafatkid
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I strongly doubt this is the case. I'd bet those lawyers said what they were paid to say.
oates seems to think THESE lawyers were being honest
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:15 pm to Oates Mustache
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was that the GDC has been thoroughly tested and as such will allow this to remain intact because of Covid being classified as a "grave danger".
because that is what they are being paid to say to try to eliminate fence sitters and the indecisive
force them into a “hopeless” corner
this is laughable
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:16 pm to Mizzoufan26
I had no expectations prior to the meeting, I was invited by a friend. I didn't really know what to expect.
I don't know why I even bother sometimes. I bring what I think is interesting info where most of you won't see into the looking glass, and yall shite all over me. I didn't say I agreed, I just thought yall would appreciate hearing it. Silly me.
I don't know why I even bother sometimes. I bring what I think is interesting info where most of you won't see into the looking glass, and yall shite all over me. I didn't say I agreed, I just thought yall would appreciate hearing it. Silly me.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:16 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Without going into extreme detail, and not to the surprise of many here, they basically said that in their opinion ultimately OSHA will prevail and this will be the new norm going forward.
My company (huge international) lawyers are saying pretty much the complete opposite
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:18 pm to SaintInBham
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My company (huge international) lawyers are saying pretty much the complete opposite
What do they think will ultimately be it's unraveling?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:19 pm to Oates Mustache
you apparently have a low threshold for what you consider being “shite on”
if you take a step back and think about the call with the idea that it is manipulation and propaganda with zero basis in reality then you may have a different view
the CDC blocked evictions, until they didnt any more. every thing evens out in the end
if you take a step back and think about the call with the idea that it is manipulation and propaganda with zero basis in reality then you may have a different view
the CDC blocked evictions, until they didnt any more. every thing evens out in the end
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:19 pm to Oates Mustache
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and not to the surprise of many here, they basically said that in their opinion ultimately OSHA will prevail
I'd say you're better than this but that would be the second lie included in this post.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:25 pm to Oates Mustache
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Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment.
So why not mandate every vaccine at all times forever?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:25 pm to 19
And what's the first? That you didn't enjoy sucking C on the Z dry?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:28 pm to Oates Mustache
Lots of facets. OSHA lacking authority to states passing multiple laws contradicting the mandate. I’m not a lawyer but their feelings is that at least some of the challenges will ultimately prevail at the very least making in it unenforceable
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