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re: Oregon sent 60 FireTrucks to Cali, they are being held in Sacramento for emissions testing
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:21 am to udtiger
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:21 am to udtiger
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You see...that was false.
They were held up for inspections (because, apparently, Oregon firetrucks are shite compared to Cali fire trucks), not for emissions testing.
I know this comment is made with tongue and cheek, but even this is a fail.
Some aspect of a routine CALDOT inspection certainly involves making sure engine exhaust systems meet basic emission standards.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 8:22 am
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:33 am to Warrior Court
quote:
it doesn't matter - this is the problem when the Internet got out to the rural uneducated communities. Everything is a conspiracy theory and/or a psy-op even though they don't really know what that means. News information isn't credible unless it's from a someone from their side and everything else is fake news. we are doomed with the toothless population gaining access to computers.
Said like a smug elitist democrat
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:41 am to Zip it blondie
Safety checks is every bit as retarded as emissions testing.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:42 am to SaintsReportExile
quote:Does it say how long they are waiting? I wouldn't expect that they'd just drive up to one of the fires and start going at it.
And if your reading comprehension sucks, let me emphasize the important part "The rest of our strike teams are at the Sacramento Command Center finishing vehicle inspections or awaiting assignment in Los Angeles County.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:43 am to beaux duke
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quote:Are you really this stupid? You think when there’s a hurricane that Louisiana and Florida DOT are out there inspecting every power truck brought in and working?
do you think any guy with a bucket truck can show up and start pulling lines?
Do you think no one would notice you changed the premise in your lame attempt to disagree with someone?
Do you really think the scenario being discussed is equivalent or even comparable to random people showing up with bucket trucks to start “pulling lines”?
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:50 am to Warrior Court
Why are they being inspected in California? Oregon doesn’t inspect their fire trucks?
Just seems strange is all.
The assumption here is Oregon has fire trucks not ready to fight fires. Which would be bad for Oregon in an emergency as well.
Just seems strange is all.
The assumption here is Oregon has fire trucks not ready to fight fires. Which would be bad for Oregon in an emergency as well.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 8:54 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:13 am to beaux duke
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can you elaborate on your experience with this type of event?
Yes. During hurricanes, assistance got placard (big stickers) with the local government. There were no checkpoints.
Same with Hurricane cleanup. Bucket trucks and equipment go to a FEMA site and get placard then are free to go to work for the contractor they contacted that is awarded a certain area.
There was never any inspection. They just got authorization to get past state police and national guard or whoever was protecting access.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:16 am to loogaroo
quote:Clearly you guys needed an incident commander located in the state capital to ensure such things as government fire trucks are compliant.
There was never any inspection
You guys are so very fortunate! I mean some rogue fire truck from Oregon could have caused massive problems!
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:17 am to dgnx6
What creates more pollution, a poorly tuned/ designed truck or the fire the truck could have stopped. Rubber tires and the chemicals and plastics being burned are far worse than the exhaust. That doesn’t even bring personal loss into the equation. Real leadership would use emergency action to not only exempt the testing but give a police escort to speed their help to the fires.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:18 am to Zip it blondie
Emission testing was part of the inspection so…
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:24 am to Violent Hip Swivel
quote:
. If a real journalist gets duped by a source or posts a story that ends up being false one too many times, they are fired and blacklisted from the industry.
The main stream media seems to still be in business???
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:28 am to Zip it blondie
1) is this actually true?
2) imagine being concerned about emissions from a motor vehicle when thousands of acres of forage and housing are literally burning and emitting God knows what into the atmosphere
It would be laughable if it weren't so catastrophic.
2) imagine being concerned about emissions from a motor vehicle when thousands of acres of forage and housing are literally burning and emitting God knows what into the atmosphere
It would be laughable if it weren't so catastrophic.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:33 am to beaux duke
quote:That's a reasonable expectation as I’m sure that happens to the local crews, as well.
there is. and its going to involve out of area crews checking in. again, at the very least they want to brief your crew on the situation and your mission. this is fema 101
That isn’t being debated from what I can see. The issue is that fellow trained firefighters from a nearby state are offering their services to fight the fires in the area and are being held up by days (not minutes or hours) by unnecessary red tape. Over-regulation is the problem being pointed out, where the forest is being missed (almost literally) for the trees.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:45 am to FooManChoo
quote:Bingo.
That isn’t being debated from what I can see. The issue is that fellow trained firefighters from a nearby state are offering their services to fight the fires in the area and are being held up by days (not minutes or hours) by unnecessary red tape. Over-regulation is the problem being pointed out, where the forest is being missed (almost literally) for the trees.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:47 am to Zip it blondie
LOL, the community notes admit they were stopped and inspected, but not for emissions, but other reasons.
Why the frick are you even delaying them? If they are City/State emergency vehicles, you should just wave them on.
fricking California
Why the frick are you even delaying them? If they are City/State emergency vehicles, you should just wave them on.
fricking California
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:49 am to Jbird
quote:
You guys are so very fortunate! I mean some rogue fire truck from Oregon could have caused massive problems!
lol
God forbid a diesel engine blow black smoke.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:49 am to Lsut81
Dude every incident commander worth his California credentials would never let an out of state fire truck on scene without knowing the tire pressure is within allowable range!
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:54 am to FooManChoo
quote:
Over-regulation is the problem being pointed out, where the forest is being missed (almost literally) for the trees.
Bingo
I mentioned this earlier in this thread. The fires themselves are results of these regulations.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:56 am to beaux duke
quote:
do you think the power companies just let anyone with a bucket truck show up and just drive right in, start working?
No.
There is coordination in place prior to an event justifying assistance.
With hurricanes, the power companies will analyze the situation, then send their trucks as soon as possible.
LaDOT does not inspect their trucks.
You are defending the stupidity of the left. It was on full display, and there was no justification for it.
Either your fellow goose-steppers out west were (stupidly) “just following orders from state,” or they were grossly unprepared for this event.
Those are the only two options.
Defending either course of action via deflection illustrates is a terrible look for anyone that does so imho.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:04 am to beaux duke
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its not needless
I have yet to see a list of “repairs.”
I mean, is it pumps, or catalytic converters?
Either way, the delay has cost lives.
There really is no excuse.
It is incompetence of the worst order.
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