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re: One day, some of you will all learn that Trump is the greatest negotiator in history

Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:20 pm to
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They had sites we didn't know about so last year was not the set back this one was


Is that what our great leader said?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182538 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:21 pm to
If you're going to be purposely obtuse and hyperbolic when I answer your question, then I won't take your questions seriously
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15964 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:24 pm to
Sorry the inconsistent messaging from the administration is confusing as frick.

Your answer doesn’t follow what Trump was saying. Why should I believe it?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18635 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:32 pm to
If this ceasefire lasts and Israel is included. Trump and Israel won. They took out the supreme leader and Iran is forced to swallow that resentment. Trump gets to avoid a big war and have everything go back to what it was before.

That is huge. It shows the difference in strength between our countries. Because if Iran took out our leader, there's no doubt in my mind that we would have feet on the ground and hitting Iran with almost everything we have. There's no way we'd agree to a ceasefire..
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:49 pm to
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The desease is to powerful.

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179052 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 7:50 pm to
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One day, some of you will all learn that Trump is the greatest negotiator in historyby stout

People never want to admit that they turned into a fricking coward defeatist that has been caddled like a sheep
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6886 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:02 pm to
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Democrats created this Monster in the Middle East

Reagan armed the Iranians in 1981 in their war against Iraq and he helped legitimize the government. Reagan also armed the Taliban in the 1980’s in their war against Russia.

Those are 2 of the 4 countries that have strict Sharia Law.

This has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats that are in office now. It is the mistakes we made 40 to 50 years ago.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13972 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:13 pm to
Correct
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:14 pm to
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Gen Jack Keane


It's a two week agreement!

It will decompress the Persian Gulf during those two weeks.

Gen Jack Keane is an idiot

Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
84027 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Is that what our great leader said?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:25 pm to
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bullshite


How else would I know that about your kid? You bitched at people for not wearing mask and mentioned how they were selfish for not wearing mask because your kid.

If that didn't happen, how would I know that?

Why are you a liar?
I can think of dozens of easy ways someone might mention having an immunocompromised kid during COVID that don’t necessitate being a mask Nazi. Hell, I can think of ways to bring it up specifically to attack mask Nazis.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:52 pm to
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If this ceasefire lasts and Israel is included. Trump and Israel won. They took out the supreme leader and Iran is forced to swallow that resentment. Trump gets to avoid a big war and have everything go back to what it was before.

That is huge. It shows the difference in strength between our countries. Because if Iran took out our leader, there's no doubt in my mind that we would have feet on the ground and hitting Iran with almost everything we have. There's no way we'd agree to a ceasefire..
If your justification for treating them as a threat is that they’re an Islamic terrorist state, which we all know are powered by resentment, proxies, and long-tail retaliation, then creating more resentment inside that system isn’t a victory condition.

Iran can’t put boots on American soil. But lack of ability isn’t lack of will. Their playbook is different: proxies, regional strikes, and deniable attacks. That’s the capabilities they actually have, and it’s the same ones everyone points to when calling them a threat.

So saying “we wouldn’t accept a ceasefire” misses the entire international dynamic. A ceasefire doesn’t neutralize the kind of retaliation they’re built around. It just pauses direct conflict (where they're weaker) while leaving their main tools completely intact.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:54 pm to
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It will decompress the Persian Gulf during those two weeks.

Gen Jack Keane is an idiot

Says the fake doctor that is only good at photo shop
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90771 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:55 pm to
Powerfool you seem angry.

As a Hamas bro aren't you giddy
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10711 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:56 pm to
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Powerman


so bitter, I hope you choke on the bile.
Posted by Patato Salad
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
1211 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:58 pm to
How’s his arse taste?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162937 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:22 pm to
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Trump could personally cure your immune-compromised kid and you would still find a reason to bitch about him.


Good lord some of you are bat shite crazy…

This thread and hero worship for the guy is bizarre and kind of creepy. Then taking aim at a sick kid to prove he’s the deranged one….Get a fricking grip man
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13246 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:31 pm to
Been a Trump supporter. Think this has been bungled. Don’t see them restarting the military campaign after this break unless Iran does something egregious.

Also think threatening to blow them was more wild than threatening.

I think they become full blown Chinese client state, trading infrastructure for oil without US boots on ground, which would be a disaster.

Could have let Israel drop the first one and then hang back and hope for reset. Pushing the chips in without full commitment is wild.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182538 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:31 pm to
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Get a fricking grip man


Shut up
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 10:35 pm
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:33 pm to
The Strait of Hormuz will have a toll booth for the first time in history...

The ceasefire agreement includes allowing both Iran and Oman to charge fees on ships transiting the Strait.

Iran will use the revenue for reconstruction.

The world never paid to use this waterway before tonight.

Iran went to war with the most powerful military on earth and came out of it with something no nation has ever had: a formal revenue stream from 20% of the world's oil supply passing through its waters.
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