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re: Ohio State Univ Study: COVID-Vaxed Patients Die at Near Double the Rate than Non-Vaxed Pat
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:13 pm to FutureMikeVIII
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:13 pm to FutureMikeVIII
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FutureMikeVIII
So tell us all wise and knowing one: How many booster shots have you received?
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:14 pm to Old Character
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Having not read the study I bet it does not “prove” what y’all think it “proves”.
Look! Another one!
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:17 pm to JasonDBlaha
No frick they haven't
Posted on 6/3/24 at 9:31 pm to Old Character
Quote from the study:
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Surprisingly, in our limited dataset, COVID-19 vaccination was associated with worse clinical outcomes and decreased SARS-CoV-2/CCCoV Ab levels. Our data agree with previous studies reporting on increased in-hospital mortality rates in Vax vs. NVax patients with severe COVID-19
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:11 pm to idsrdum
Very interesting.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:45 pm to crazy4lsu
Also from the study
Do you have an opinion on this - have you see this with your patients or is it even something that is typically monitored?
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We observed a trend for increased total IgG4 Ab, which promotes immune tolerance, in the Vax vs. NVax patients in week 3.
Do you have an opinion on this - have you see this with your patients or is it even something that is typically monitored?
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:06 pm to SirWinston
quote:You can't stop thinking of me. I've never gotten much attention from anyone but you. If I ever get banned, I'll rely on you to recommend my reinstatement. Thanks.
mRNA enthusiast Jake88 vehemently disagrees with this
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:22 pm to Night Vision
Every day I’m more and more convinced that modern conservatism is the product of not understanding things. Which is why I’m not surprised that you didn’t notice that hospitalizations and deaths were dramatically lower for vaccinated patients.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:26 pm to reddy tiger
I expect all.the MD’s and PHd’s who’s names are on that paper to be black balled and guess what old arse people,over 70 that have to be hospitalized for respiratory failure usually die. Who knew?
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:33 pm to SingleMalt1973
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old arse people,over 70 that have to be hospitalized for respiratory failure usually die. Who knew?
You’re so close man. This is an easy one... What caused the respiratory failure?
Posted on 6/3/24 at 11:43 pm to reddy tiger
Well from March 2020 til March 2022 it was Covid, but since I don’t know.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:05 am to SingleMalt1973
This is a stupid way to look at it, particularly without qualifiers.
So a group of people more heavily leaning towards major co-morbidities showed greater death than those without as many co-morbidities?
I am shocked I tell you! Shocked!
These gotcha type studies are so stupid on both sides and reek of an agenda. It’s like the “women make 78 cents on the dollar” arguments that ignore the type of jobs more heavily employed by women being lower paid (I.e teaching/nursing) yet when you actually compare men and women for the same job, the difference is less than 2%.
But again, keep pushing your agendas.
So a group of people more heavily leaning towards major co-morbidities showed greater death than those without as many co-morbidities?
I am shocked I tell you! Shocked!
These gotcha type studies are so stupid on both sides and reek of an agenda. It’s like the “women make 78 cents on the dollar” arguments that ignore the type of jobs more heavily employed by women being lower paid (I.e teaching/nursing) yet when you actually compare men and women for the same job, the difference is less than 2%.
But again, keep pushing your agendas.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:23 am to the808bass
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Think of how much worse their deaths would’ve been if they hadn’t been vaccinated.
good one, mate 
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:24 am to Jake88
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You can't stop thinking of me. I've never gotten much attention from anyone but you. If I ever get banned, I'll rely on you to recommend my reinstatement. Thanks
I absolutely have got your back, amigo Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:43 am to Night Vision
I hope and pray that Anthony Fauci burns in hell for all eternity.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:45 am to JackieTreehorn
Let's see. They want to reduce the worlds population. But they don't want to die too. They release a virus from a biolab, hype it up to be the next black death. Then convince people to take the death shot. Brilliant.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:08 am to stuntman
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I wonder if any studies have been done about fertility rates among the jabbed as well.
There was a Canadian study about the massive increase in still births.
I don't recall if the mothers were vaxxed pre or during pregnancy.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:13 am to momentoftruth87
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Care to post these “countless” studies?
Care to post the one the OP is referencing? Every time - and I mean EVERY time - a ridiculous assertion about a study is made on here, and I read the actual study, it was completely misrepresented.
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A total of seven studies with 21,618,297 COVID-19 patients were included in the meta-analysis. The odds ratio (OR) for mortality among unvaccinated patients compared to vaccinated patients was 2.46 (95% CI: 1.71-3.53), indicating that unvaccinated patients were 2.46 times more likely to die from COVID-19.
But since you ask, here it is
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:40 am to idsrdum
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Do you have an opinion on this - have you see this with your patients or is it even something that is typically monitored?
Not really monitored on floors or ICU, where the goal isn't to really find the etiology but rather improve the patient's condition to the point they can be discharged.
I've said previously, I do think the distinctions we've seen with antibody response post-vaccination versus post-infection suggest a mediating cause on the spike protein itself. I've seen suggestions that microRNA from the viral genome could be this mediating cause which can possibly be a route for tolerance. Repeated infections can also be another route. At the same time, as I've said before, I think a large part of the reaction to COVID is based on HLA antigens, which provides a framework for possibly tolerance as well as for the wide quality of infections between individuals.
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