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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:21 pm to
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I don’t think it’s munitions. I think its the congress and 60 days war powers act.

Go get a vote. Republicans have majorities in both houses and certainly can pressure a few democrats into going along.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13518 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:29 pm to
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The deal Obama made put inspectors inside Iranian nuclear facilities.

bullshite.
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Yes, inspectors were put inside Iranian nuclear sites on military bases, but their access to undeclared military sites was restricted and required a negotiation process.


That "secret" military site y'all know about...you can't go there. Nothing to see in that secret military site anyway.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16023 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:44 pm to
Why would anyone in their right mind trust a regime that has expressed no willingness to consider peace with another regional State and worse, has intentionally waged warfare against that State [unapologetically; no less[ via proxies from no less than three locations?

Why would you trust a nation which revealed a ballistic missile with much more range than known before?

Why would you trust a nation to be mindful of others when killing and executing their own at the drop of a hat?

How does one even begin negotiating with a nation such as this?

How does one trust a 5 decade long regime that has contributed nothing of consequence to the global community?

Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11408 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:48 pm to
might want to include Malaysia and Indonesia for another 350 million mussies
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13518 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:53 pm to
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It’s embarrassing how few defensive munitions we have in our inventory

Wow. you must have quite the clearance level to know this kind of thing.

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98311 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:09 pm to
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Wow. you must have quite the clearance level to know this kind of thing.


CNN and NYT told me so!!!
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75777 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:43 pm to
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Help pass the new defense budget then! I’m all for it!

They're already funded at damn near a trillion dollars, are asking for $200 billion more, and are already lobbying for a bump up to $1.5 trillion for next year.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27540 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:51 pm to
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I'm starting to think that there is some truth to the U.S. being concerned about munitions availability.


Very possible. I posted this very thought in the Ukraine thread earlier tonight. Ukraine / Russia war is escalating and Belarus is rumored to be about to join the fray. This could be the reason air defense systems are possibly going to be needed.

Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
169 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 9:57 pm to
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Really doesn’t sound like a country looking forward to a deal
This post was edited on 5/25/26 at 10:03 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:21 pm to
Qatar is asshoes
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6070 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:22 pm to
Why would you trust a nation that overthrew your elected government and installed an emperor 70 years ago?

Why would you trust a nation attempting regime change again in your country with bombs and embargoes?

Why would you trust a nation to have your back in an internal coup when they left their afghani collaborators to the Taliban and the Kurds to Saddam?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:26 pm to
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The deal Obama made


You really do not understand the Obama deal if you are touting its efficacy.

It was a shite deal to its core. It was a facade for optics only with no real enforcement capabilities, and giving them access to treasure, and lifting some sanctions. It was a fricking gift to the regime.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16420 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:56 pm to
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Why would you trust a nation that overthrew your elected government and installed an emperor 70 years ago?

Why would you trust a nation attempting regime change again in your country with bombs and embargoes?

Why would you trust a nation to have your back in an internal coup when they left their afghani collaborators to the Taliban and the Kurds to Saddam?


They could just simply look at any agreement we've made throughout history on paper and how well we honor it.

Ask the Japanese how well we honor our signed commitments. Ask NATO. Ask South Korea. Ask Israel. Ask Germany and Europe.

If we're signing something official on paper, we commit to it
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47395 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:00 pm to
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You really do not understand the Obama deal if you are touting its efficacy.

It was a shite deal to its core. It was a facade for optics only with no real enforcement capabilities, and giving them access to treasure, and lifting some sanctions. It was a fricking gift to the regime.


All of this may be true, which should make the reports of a deal with Iran that have come out that are worse than the JCPOA even more hard to stomach. Especially after the efforts we went through after removing ourselves from the JCPOA in 2018.

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47395 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:01 pm to
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They could just simply look at any agreement we've made throughout history on paper and how well we honor it.

Ask the Japanese how well we honor our signed commitments. Ask NATO. Ask South Korea. Ask Israel. Ask Germany and Europe.

If we're signing something official on paper, we commit to it


We signed an agreement with Iran in 2015 and by 2018 we exited it.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13518 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:16 pm to
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the reports of a deal with Iran that have come out

Which reports are true?

All I've seen are a bunch of internet folks talking about "sources" saying shite about everything and nothing at the same time.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
109144 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:23 pm to
I have literally posted if the leaks of the “deal” prove to be true, they are Obama level bad and would make me melt hard.
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7764 posts
Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:43 pm to
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It’s the truth. Iran was cooperating with the IAEA until Trump pulled the plug and started imposing sanctions. You can not like the deal but Iran was cooperating because of it. I think that’s part of the reason Trump wants the nuclear materials out because otherwise what he’s offering would look very similar to Obama.


Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 5:41 am to
A small snipped from that text:

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immediately turned over to the United States to be brought home and destroyed


Brought "home" to the US? Does that mean it originated here?
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