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Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:40 pm to wdhalgren
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I can only come up with one reason they might suddenly become uncooperative. China buys a lot of SA oil, about 1.5 million barrels a day from what I can tell. The US buys about 1/6th that much.
Or more simply, they’re more than happy to keep Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, and the UAE corked so they can supply the shortage.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:56 pm to omegaman66
The Saudi's and Kuwaiti's have been privately urging Trump to finish the fight. Denying air corridors and base access is probably their way of saying "We are taking a stand until Iran is dealt with once and for all." It was their way of trying to force our hand back into resuming attacks IMO.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:56 pm to BayouBengal51
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U.S. conditions:
• Ban uranium enrichment for 20 years
• Hand over all enriched materials
• Official commitment not to pursue nuclear weapons
• Dismantle Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan
• Ban any underground nuclear activity
• Allow inspections and sanctions in case of any violation
Source | The Wall Street Journal
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• Trump gave Iran 48 hours to respond.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:59 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:00 pm to lsuconnman
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Or more simply, they’re more than happy to keep Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, and the UAE corked so they can supply the shortage.
The problem is that Saudi ships almost half the oil that passes through the SOH. If the strait remains closed, that hurts them too. And most of that ends up in China. I'm not sure what Saudi's plan is, unless they're now wanting the US end to the war on Iran's terms, or maybe they want the US to go ahead and bomb Iran into oblivion.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:00 pm to BayouBengal51
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The Saudi's and Kuwaiti's have been privately urging Trump to finish the fight. Denying air corridors and base access is probably their way of saying "We are taking a stand until Iran is dealt with once and for all." It was their way of trying to force our hand back into resuming attacks IMO.
The only way the UAE and SA etc would join with the USA and Israel is if they believed the bully on the block that has scared them for decades was to be terminated.
I don't know what Trumps real plans were/are but he sure has appeared to be willing to forego regime change.
I sure hope Trump doesn't act like the previous DS actors and pull the rug out once again from our allies.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:03 pm to BayouBengal51
Zero chance Iran agrees to any of that!

Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:11 pm to demtigers73
This shite is so stupid. We need to stop wasting time and everyone’s money
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:17 pm to demtigers73
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Zero chance Iran agrees to any of that!
Well I guess we will see if any of that is true in a little less than 48 hours!
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:18 pm to BayouBengal51
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Translation: The Iranian regime wants to mine an international waterway, attack commercial vessels, charge illegal tolls, block humanitarian aid, and then call America “politically motivated” for asking the UN to make them stop.
Freedom of navigation is a core pillar of global peace and prosperity. Iran treats it like a doormat.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:23 pm to omegaman66
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I don't know what Trumps real plans were/are but he sure has appeared to be willing to forego regime change.
I think Trump definitely wants regime change. He doesn't want to do it in such a way that it destroys the country for a long time. And he knows Congress won't suppport a ground war.
So the slow approach is the other option; let the economy falter and support the population in overthrowing the regime. Ideally while reopening the SOH to friendly traffic.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:32 pm to omegaman66
Israeli troops have been sent to UAE
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:04 pm to wdhalgren
Also, this talk of not allowing fly overs provides the perfect cover for Military aircraft to turn off transponders on their way to bomb targets……
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:23 pm to tigeraddict
Wonder if SA etc didn’t want us to use air space cause Iran threatened to bomb refineries etc if they did.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:44 pm to Tigerstark
IRGC doesn't care.. if they burn, everyone burns
Remember, they don't give a rat's meow about their own unarmed people
They don't think Western...they think and act Tribal, when it suits them...didn't care about citizens of Gaza; Syria, Lebanon......
Remember, they don't give a rat's meow about their own unarmed people
They don't think Western...they think and act Tribal, when it suits them...didn't care about citizens of Gaza; Syria, Lebanon......
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:57 pm to wdhalgren
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The problem is that Saudi ships almost half the oil that passes through the SOH.
They have a pipeline to the Red Sea to bypass shipping through the SOH.
Course Iran could keep attacking the pipeline to keep it shut down.
The UAE also has a pipeline to bypass the SOH.
Iran could hit that too.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:13 pm to TigersSEC2010
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This is fricking exhausting just bomb them until they’re all dead and let whoever survives figure it out.

Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:19 pm to moontigr
The wavering , imv, is a concern that DJT will do a coitus interuptus and they have to live with the mess...is their neighborhood, not ours....not directly
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