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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by exiledhogfan
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:24 pm to
Just so I'm clear ...

When they change their mind six times over the course of four hours, that's a lack of leadership.

When Trump does it, he's playing some sort of 18-dimensional chess.

Do I have that right?
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:24 pm to
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Regime change would be 100x better than any other result, but, at a minimum,


The Islamic Republic with nuclear weapons would be vastly worse the North Korea.

Regime change is the only real solution.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:30 pm to
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When only one site is talking about it, well that should be your indicator.

They aren't the only outlet talking about it and this news is a couple days old. How true it proved to be, I'm not sure, but multiple accounts/sources reported it.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:52 pm to
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If we knock out the electrical power grids Iran will also likely have a water problem because water pumps are usually run by electricity

Not only drinking water, but sewage treatment will stoo. Lift stations for sewage will stop operating, toilets will not refill and flushing ceases, etc.
More people die from the diseases that come from war than the actual war.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Just so I'm clear ...

When they change their mind six times over the course of four hours, that's a lack of leadership.

When Trump does it, he's playing some sort of 18-dimensional chess.

Do I have that right?


While you were close to a good point, the difference is there is no debate that the executive authority lies with the President, whether he makes one decision one time or flip flops 50.

Right now, we have multiple people in the Iranian government purporting to hold the same level of authority.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:23 pm to
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The Islamic Republic with nuclear weapons would be vastly worse the North Korea.

Regime change is the only real solution.

This is the only solution to the Iran situation. Many, if not most on this thread would agree.

Now ask yourself.... Does DJT not also see this the same way? This President is not going to be bribed, not going to be intimidated, not going to be re-elected. This President loves this country and is doing what he thinks is best to protect us and the country. I find it difficult to believe any deal will be made that cannot be un-made.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:45 pm to
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A U.S. government plane landed on the island nation's soil for the first time since 2016. As the U.S. fuel blockade worsens an already dire humanitarian crisis for Cuba's people, U.S. officials believe there is an opening to push communist leaders OUT."

"A senior official confirms to [Fox News] tonight that that delegation met with Fidel Castro's grandson...while on the ground in Havana."

"They also tell us the delegation made demands of Havana, including major reforms like opening up the internet and making sure, going forward, that they agree to release at least some political prisoners."

CUBA IS NEXT!
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:47 pm to
dude needs a 4 am swat wakeup call and then to a poorly run deportation center
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:49 pm to
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U.S. forces patrol the Arabian Sea near M/V Touska, April 20, as the Iranian-flagged vessel's container cargo is searched after U.S. Marines boarded and seized the ship when it attempted to violate the U.S. naval blockade"
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 5:51 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:12 pm to
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This thread will explode once the people start taking matters into their own hands.


We just have to get them drones which any experienced gamer could quickly learn to use to target the IRGC figs, right Auburn1968?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:16 pm to
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Why would you worry about that? Iran has already admitted to the most serious accusations against it.

So did Saddam Hussein.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:27 pm to
and its not like you can just rebuild power grids overnight. that would cause a lot of hardship for a long time even if regime change happens
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:35 pm to
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So did Saddam Hussein


People don't want to believe this, but the Iraq and Iran situations have some pretty big differences.
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:36 pm to
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:37 pm to
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A vessel moving through Chinese ports, attempting to run a U.S. blockade, and carrying suspected dual-use materials to Iran is not an isolated incident, it reflects a systemic risk.

In our "Crude Intentions" investigation, @ChinaSelect found the CCP uses a “shadow fleet” of thousands of tankers, shell companies, and ship-to-ship transfers to move oil and other sanctioned goods through opaque global routes.

From illicit oil to potential dual-use cargo, the system is the same: hide the source, move through weak enforcement zones, and undercut sanctions.

The CCP is a central player in the logistics networks that keep sanctioned regimes like Iran afloat.
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:39 pm to
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Trump, by imposing a siege and violating the ceasefire, seeks to turn this negotiating table— in his own imagination— into a table of surrender or to justify renewed warmongering.
We do not accept negotiations under the shadow of threats, and in the past two weeks, we have prepared to reveal new cards on the battlefield.
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