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Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:13 pm to Bronco11
Is Iran still "accidentally" bombing Israel and others since the cease fire?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:22 pm to hawgfaninc
Trump and Hegseth HAVE to know that an outcome that doesn't present some sort of big win for America and global peace will be seen as a huge failure and capitulation to terrorists. If we are seen as "quitting the fight" simply because Americans griped over $1 more per gallon at the pump for a couple weeks and our leaders couldn't stomach the political grumbles over it, our projection of power and influence is practically over.
We absolutely cannot be seen as giving in to Iran because of internal pressure getting too "politically costly" only after a couple weeks. That emboldens China to move on Taiwan, Russia to continue whatever they want, Iran to pursue nuclear armaments, North Korea, etc - basically any ruling faction that doesn't care what it's populace thinks about them and are so ideologically driven theyre willing to wreck their internal economy and population.
Our gripes against paying a little more at the gas pumps might literally be the one thing that ruins our force projection across the globe, if this falls through
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:34 pm to AGGIES
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I’m trying to figure out what the victory is. Caroline Leavitt, the press secretary says this is a huge victory. What’s she talking about?
Im trying to figure out why you are always confused.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:38 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
Well I’m not always confused. But Leavitt doesn’t always say logical things.
I’ll listen to explanation if you got one. Do you know what the victory is?
I’ll listen to explanation if you got one. Do you know what the victory is?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:02 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
I’m trying to figure out what the victory is. Caroline Leavitt, the press secretary says this is a huge victory. What’s she talking about?
The American victory is that the Strait gets opened for a minute while we resupply and surge up.
The IRGC victory is that they get to bury the 48lbs. of their supreme leader they managed to find before the 40 day burial period so he wouldn't be considered a nameless traitor, unworthy of his 72 virgin goats in heaven. Now they can show up to honor him without getting blown up at the funeral.
Or can they,..I don't think those wicked joos signed up for this ceasefire.
The American victory is that the Strait gets opened for a minute while we resupply and surge up.
The IRGC victory is that they get to bury the 48lbs. of their supreme leader they managed to find before the 40 day burial period so he wouldn't be considered a nameless traitor, unworthy of his 72 virgin goats in heaven. Now they can show up to honor him without getting blown up at the funeral.
Or can they,..I don't think those wicked joos signed up for this ceasefire.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:06 pm to RazorBroncs
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Which is why Trump really needed to show that he was willing to go through with it this time
No, Trump already gained enough credibility that he followed through with threats. The regime knows this. Their propaganda speech, posts, interviews were hollow and bravado.
They knew Trump would cripple them, why? Because they are crippled, still dangerous to a certain degree but crippled.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:40 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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Im trying to figure out why you are always confused.
Aggie says it all
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:41 pm to CitizenK
This I’m no way a victory for this country.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:48 pm to dukke v
Is it better than the alternative?
If the ceasefire leads to taking control of the uranium and eases tensions in the ME, would that be a victory?
If the ceasefire leads to taking control of the uranium and eases tensions in the ME, would that be a victory?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:48 pm to mulletproof
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The American victory is that the Strait gets opened for a minute while we resupply and surge up.
Yeah, a timeout. Meaning TBD…
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:49 pm to AGGIES
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trying to figure out what the victory is. Caroline Leavitt, the press secretary says this is a huge victory. What’s she talking about?
Right there with you
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:54 pm to Rebel
Getting the uranium physically removed from Iran would be a victory of sorts, though it would still be a bitter pill if we have to watch Iran collect tolls. If we get the uranium and they don't collect tolls then I'd be quite happy with that result. But these are all ifs.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:05 am to TroutGuy
Meanwhile, it looks like Israel is back to whacking targets in Gaza. I've seen a couple reports of a strike that killed ten or so.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 12:16 am to Rebel
If the irgc remain in control this will be a complete failure
Posted on 4/8/26 at 1:59 am to EarlDibblesJr
Ok, I’ll say it. The biggest losers in all of this are the Iranian people. For weeks we’ve told them to wait and when the time comes take back their government. So now what? Are we just going to leave them at the mercy of the regime?
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:38 am to omegaman66
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There are many reasons. 3 really big ones.
1. No Nukes
2. Hamstring China
3. Petrodollar
These are all true, and big reasons and all tied to the one really big obvious reason; energy (oil). Without that, middle eastern conflicts would get about as much attention as warring tribes in poor African nations.
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 4:43 am
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:55 am to wdhalgren
Posted on 4/8/26 at 4:56 am to TroutGuy
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