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Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:55 pm to Fuzzy Dunlop
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President Trump, speaking on a tele-rally, says the United States can expect "total victory" over Iran in another two weeks.
Is this like when the Pelicans medical staff says Zion will be reevaluated in 2 weeks?
#PelsLife
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:04 pm to Fuzzy Dunlop
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President Trump, speaking on a tele-rally, says the United States can expect "total victory" over Iran in another two weeks. "You're really going to win it over the next two weeks when we declare total victory. It will be a total victory and it will happen very soon," Trump assured.
Jesus Fricking Christ!
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:28 pm to demtigers73
My goodness
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:35 pm to demtigers73
is that when oil well collapse starts?
I think that was the strategy all along
and we will let their wells fail, holding the blockade in place
I think that was the strategy all along
and we will let their wells fail, holding the blockade in place
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:37 pm to demtigers73
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President Trump, speaking on a tele-rally, says the United States can expect "total victory" over Iran in another two weeks. "You're really going to win it over the next two weeks when we declare total victory. It will be a total victory and it will happen very soon," Trump assured.
This is what I’ve been saying will and should happen.
Just declare victory and walk away.
His supporters will cheer and say something about a nuclear program blown back to the Stone Age.
His detractors will remain speechless at another failure and erosion of the American world order.
People who are ambivalent to politics but still vote won’t sweat it either way and continue vibing based on gas prices.
So . . . declare total victory and walk away. Qatar can figure out how to get its gas out on its own. Not our problem. Iraq, Saudi, Kuwait and UAE meanwhile will all be pivoted to pan arabian pipelines soon enough that bypass shipping lanes.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:42 pm to ned nederlander
You can't declare victory if Iran is humiliating us on a daily basis by charging tolls on the Strait of Hormuz that they weren't charging before the war. There's no definition of "victory" under which the "defeated" nation gets a hugely increased income and geopolitical position as a result of the war.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:54 pm to TroutGuy
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You can't declare victory if Iran is humiliating us on a daily basis by charging tolls on the Strait of Hormuz that they weren't charging before the war. There's no definition of "victory" under which the "defeated" nation gets a hugely increased income and geopolitical position as a result of the war.
If US is going to win this, they're going to have to lose some international respect for the horrors they'll have to protract on the Iranian people to break their nation.
The fact that our reputation is holding us back tells you all we need to know: we should have never gotten into a fight that we weren't prepared to end by whatever ugly means it requires. Same problem ever since the end WWII with the US military. We keep on fighting shite we have no intention winning despite thinking we will win just because we're so technologically advanced.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:20 pm to Diego Ricardo
To add on to a point I mentioned a few days ago where our geopolitical strategy seems to be made by people who fail to understand that not every person in the world thinks or sees the world like an American.
A practical example of this is how we somehow completely mis-measure the spirit of a people fighting for their existence. For us Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc are just places that need to a swift kick in the arse to fall in behind the international order led by the US. For them, they see this as an existential crisis where we are upending their way of life.
We fail to comprehend how they feel about these things because we cannot imagine it being done to us or simply think when we do it then it is the objective reality of what is right and good in the world.
Yet, we keep on fighting these boondoggles where we imagine a few big bombs and maybe some assassinations of their political leaders will make them just say, "yeah, you're right we want to do it exactly like you want now!" When you start parsing that as decision-makers being too damn American for their own good insofar that they have an utter lack of mental flexibility to understand how the other side interprets things, well it makes sense how we keep on sticking our dick in the mashed taters.
A practical example of this is how we somehow completely mis-measure the spirit of a people fighting for their existence. For us Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc are just places that need to a swift kick in the arse to fall in behind the international order led by the US. For them, they see this as an existential crisis where we are upending their way of life.
We fail to comprehend how they feel about these things because we cannot imagine it being done to us or simply think when we do it then it is the objective reality of what is right and good in the world.
Yet, we keep on fighting these boondoggles where we imagine a few big bombs and maybe some assassinations of their political leaders will make them just say, "yeah, you're right we want to do it exactly like you want now!" When you start parsing that as decision-makers being too damn American for their own good insofar that they have an utter lack of mental flexibility to understand how the other side interprets things, well it makes sense how we keep on sticking our dick in the mashed taters.
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:18 pm to Diego Ricardo
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If US is going to win this, they're going to have to lose some international respect for the horrors they'll have to protract on the Iranian people to break their nation. The fact that our reputation is holding us back tells you all we need to know: we should have never gotten into a fight that we weren't prepared to end by whatever ugly means it requires. Same problem ever since the end WWII with the US military. We keep on fighting shite we have no intention winning despite thinking we will win just because we're so technologically advanced.
Absolutely. What’s crazy is the Iranian’s are on the same level of evil as the imperial Japanese.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 7:17 am
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:36 pm to Stidham8
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Despite ongoing ceasefire discussions, attacks on Israel have continued from multiple fronts.
The Houthis launched another projectile toward southern Israel, triggering air raid sirens before Israeli air defenses intercepted the threat.
Meanwhile, questions remain surrounding the status of IRGC commander Ahmad Vahidi, who was expected to make a public appearance but has not been seen. As of now, there is no confirmed information regarding his condition.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:37 pm to BayouBengal51
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The IRGC reportedly launched drones toward U.S. bases in Iraq, but the attacks appear to have achieved little. Air defense systems intercepted the incoming threats, and early reports indicate no damage to American facilities.
Despite the limited military impact, the regime’s messaging is becoming more expansive. Senior IRGC officials are now openly calling for a coordinated "axis of resistance" stretching from the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea, signaling an effort to unite regional proxy groups.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:42 pm to BayouBengal51
Sounds like maybe the General (and/or religious leader if he was still alive) are dead after these attacks and we are about to enter a new period of "negotiations" 
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:03 pm to TroutGuy
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You can't declare victory if Iran is humiliating us on a daily basis by charging tolls on the Strait of Hormuz that they weren't charging before the war. There's no definition of "victory" under which the "defeated" nation gets a hugely increased income and geopolitical position as a result of the war.
Sure you can.
Here’s how you do it:
“Operation Epic Fury was a huge and unconditional success. The leaders of the evil Iranian regime are dead, maimed or hiding like cowards and dogs. Iran’s economy is blocked, embargoed, destroyed, dead. They have no government, no economy and most importantly . . . NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!!!!
Total Victory where Biden and Obama failed!! We’ll never fail you.
Thank you for your attention to this matter”
And then it’s over. It really is that simple.
If a country charges a toll on ship in the middle of the woods and no American troops were near enough for us to care, was there really a toll?
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:13 pm to gaetti15
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Sounds like maybe the General (and/or religious leader if he was still alive) are dead
Sure does sound like it...and now people are going to find out ole cardboard dude may well have been dead for a while.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:20 pm to DMAN1968
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:27 am to Fuzzy Dunlop
2 more weeks to stop the spread?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:06 am to BayouBengal51
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Senior IRGC officials are now openly calling for a coordinated "axis of resistance" stretching from the Persian Gulf to the Red Sea, signaling an effort to unite regional proxy groups.
This seems to me like the IRGC is on it's last gasps. This may be approaching the end or last two weeks.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:22 am to demtigers73
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Jesus Fricking Christ!
CNBC is reporting this morning that Trump said a deal will be reached in "2 or 3 days."
Posted on 6/9/26 at 6:28 am to TulsaSooner78
I hope trump gets more clear vision or is trying to bluff them completely. We have sentrys tankers loitering every night, so there could be a possibility for something, but I am starting doubt it.
Truth is that more ships are getting through the straight. And everyone of these attacks on radars in the area has probably weakened their defense of the straight more. But, where is the end point? We going to have assets out there for years?
Trump sees a deal as a way to fix that, but they aren’t going to accept a deal that weakens them to the point that trump wants. It’s suicide. Next little conflict with Israel and they could be punched out. So what ever deal will have to be enough for them to juice up their missile production and to rebuild and rearm the proxies.
I do find it odd that they didn’t respond after Israel bombed a chemical plant or refinery and killed the top general. Sounds like these last bombings were a big blow to them. You know it’s gotta be scary feeling for the leaders when you feel like you could be taken out at anytime that you’re not in a hardened bunker. Time for trump to give a final deadline or the b2s come back out. And don’t let the clowns from Qatar and pakistan stop you. He needs to quit trying please everyone and just do what is necessary.
They are firing missles in salvos of 10 and before it was like 150. And that’s after having months off to line everything up. There’s no reason for them to be conservative now.
Lastly hold them accountable for any hezbollah actions. Between letting them slide allowing their puppet to carry out attacks and not answering when they fire at our bases makes us look weak as frick. Though, at this point I don’t think anything less than fighting Israel will stop them from trying to finish them off.
Truth is that more ships are getting through the straight. And everyone of these attacks on radars in the area has probably weakened their defense of the straight more. But, where is the end point? We going to have assets out there for years?
Trump sees a deal as a way to fix that, but they aren’t going to accept a deal that weakens them to the point that trump wants. It’s suicide. Next little conflict with Israel and they could be punched out. So what ever deal will have to be enough for them to juice up their missile production and to rebuild and rearm the proxies.
I do find it odd that they didn’t respond after Israel bombed a chemical plant or refinery and killed the top general. Sounds like these last bombings were a big blow to them. You know it’s gotta be scary feeling for the leaders when you feel like you could be taken out at anytime that you’re not in a hardened bunker. Time for trump to give a final deadline or the b2s come back out. And don’t let the clowns from Qatar and pakistan stop you. He needs to quit trying please everyone and just do what is necessary.
They are firing missles in salvos of 10 and before it was like 150. And that’s after having months off to line everything up. There’s no reason for them to be conservative now.
Lastly hold them accountable for any hezbollah actions. Between letting them slide allowing their puppet to carry out attacks and not answering when they fire at our bases makes us look weak as frick. Though, at this point I don’t think anything less than fighting Israel will stop them from trying to finish them off.
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