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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:31 pm to RiverCityTider
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:31 pm to RiverCityTider
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Are the machines secure?
Show me one that was hacked during the election. I know they potentially can be hacked but not that one was.
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They are connected to the net? Right? Proven ?
I don't see where that was proven. Even Ron said he had to do more looking to confirm that on stage. Idk if he's published more definitive findings since ,that they haven't announced yet
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:33 pm to hubertcumberdale
Well it will hold up in the court of common sense.
If your saying that the information presented at that symposium would lead a reasonable person to conclude that our election process is "secure", then I have to question either your intelligence or your sincerity.
And if it's clear that the process is not secure, then we have to demand that it be investigated and reformed until hell freezes over if that's what it takes.
We don't have to prove that someone actually stole the election. All that has to be proven is that it is possible.
And why you insist that we must know the how, when and who is beyond me.
If your saying that the information presented at that symposium would lead a reasonable person to conclude that our election process is "secure", then I have to question either your intelligence or your sincerity.
And if it's clear that the process is not secure, then we have to demand that it be investigated and reformed until hell freezes over if that's what it takes.
We don't have to prove that someone actually stole the election. All that has to be proven is that it is possible.
And why you insist that we must know the how, when and who is beyond me.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:33 pm to Uncle Diddles
Definitely said Joe Biden but not so sure they said "is in custody".
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:33 pm to xGeauxLSUx
This is turning into the Q thread
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:34 pm to Navajo61490
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:35 pm to Navajo61490
Lindell needs a black Jack Hunt miracle.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:36 pm to RiverCityTider
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We don't have to prove that someone actually stole the election. All that has to be proven is that it is possible. And why you insist that we must know the how, when and who is beyond me.
The entire point of the symposium was to release some kind of data packets where attendees had a chance to disprove the legitimacy for $5,000,000. Mike Lindell also said he was going to bring this evidence to the Supreme Court of the United States.
ETA: he pulled the bet and there are no data packets being released
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:43 pm to hubertcumberdale
I don't care about that. What I want to know is, has enough been brought to light that a responsible people should insist that this issue be thoroughly investigated?
Why in the hell would a sensible people insist that if a pillow salesman doesn't successfully finger the culprits in three days, as well as detail, step by step, how it was done, then the FBI and all the applicable experts should just ignore the obvious vulnerabilities in the system just so a bunch of politicians can feel legitimized.
frick that,
We know enough already to say that these elections are not being properly managed and that the system is vulnerable.
Do you want to enable a controlled media that just wants to airbrush over these obvious flaws just so you can discredit the my pillow guy?
Why in the hell would a sensible people insist that if a pillow salesman doesn't successfully finger the culprits in three days, as well as detail, step by step, how it was done, then the FBI and all the applicable experts should just ignore the obvious vulnerabilities in the system just so a bunch of politicians can feel legitimized.
frick that,
We know enough already to say that these elections are not being properly managed and that the system is vulnerable.
Do you want to enable a controlled media that just wants to airbrush over these obvious flaws just so you can discredit the my pillow guy?
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:44 pm to RiverCityTider
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What I want to know is, has enough been brought to light that a responsible people should insist that this issue be thoroughly investigated.
No.
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Why in the hell would a sensible people insist that if a pillow salesman doesn't successfully finger the culprits in three days, as well as detail, step by step, how it was done, then the FBI and all the applicable experts should just ignore the obvious vulnerabilities in the system just so a bunch of politicians can feel legitimized.
Because that's exactly what he said he was going to do. I didn't think it was sensible from the get go but the promise was iron clad proof, real data showing the cyber attack from china, there was even millions of his own money at stake.
All before hand these claims were used as proof of how he wasn't gonna do exactly what he's up there doing. Which is flopping hard.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:46 pm to RiverCityTider
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You guys overcomplicate shite and your burden if proof is so freaking high
It's not my burden of proof you should be concerned about . Are we making disbelievers into believers or not?
Are the machines secure?
Yes or no.
of course not.
They are connected to the net? Right? Proven ?
All signs point to yet. Is the other side in agreement on this yet or no?
If they are hackable, they were hacked. And you can bet your arse on that.
Sure, I agree. But has this evidence been independently reviewed and confirmed?
So keep saying Lindell hasn't proven anything. In my book, your being useful idiots for the bad guys.
I'm just questioning things as I see. No agenda. Just wish the evidence had been more definitive so far.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:49 pm to hubertcumberdale
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None of that is real,
I saw it, don't tell me it isn't real.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:52 pm to oklahogjr
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What I want to know is, has enough been brought to light that a responsible people should insist that this issue be thoroughly investigated.
No.
I actually believe there are a good many people who have been convinced that a much more in depth investigation has been shown to be warranted, and those same people have witnessed the Left fight tooth and nail to avoid those things. Ultimately, that a comprehensive investigation as well as allowance of various litigation to move further through the system should have been allowed.
To me, the Left shot themselves in the foot by fighting against these things so publicly, thereby leaving many questions unanswered. Which may well be the most effective outcome for those who allege election wrongdoing. They forever left the door open for uncertainty and curiosity as to why they fought a deeper delve into it so vigorously.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:54 pm to oklahogjr
Honestly, your more interested in discrediting Lindell than saving the country.
You even go so far as to say it doesn't warrent investigation.
Anyone who wants to block legitimate investigations into the integrity of our elections, be it a politician, an election official or yourself, has to be guilty of bad intentions.
You even go so far as to say it doesn't warrent investigation.
Anyone who wants to block legitimate investigations into the integrity of our elections, be it a politician, an election official or yourself, has to be guilty of bad intentions.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:57 pm to davyjones
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actually believe there are a good many people who have been convinced that a much more in depth investigation has been shown to be warranted, and those same people have witnessed the Left fight tooth and nail to avoid those things. Ultimately, that a comprehensive investigation as well as allowance of various litigation to move further through the system should have been allowed.
I should be more clear.
I think more looking into that computer image, getting it mounted, and gaining access is needed.
But I don't think they shown enough to warrant a full scale act of Congress of investigation. This is still at the level of entry journalism.
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me, the Left shot themselves in the foot by fighting against these things so publicly, thereby leaving many questions unanswered. Which may well be the most effective outcome for those who allege election wrongdoing. They forever left the door open for uncertainty and curiosity as to why they fought a deeper delve into it so vigorously.
Agreed unfortunately many don't understand that trying to smother a message and Keeping it from seeing the light of day just allows the idea to fester in the dark with bad actors.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:57 pm to hubertcumberdale
NBC - county voter records hacked
Denying that fraud happens is just an ignorant statement.
Fderal Law Constraints
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The Riverside County district attorney, Mike Hestrin, investigated and determined that the voter records of dozens of people had been tampered with by hackers. Hestrin said this week that federal officials confirmed his suspicions in a private conversation, saying the details were classified.
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WASHINGTON — In a little-noticed episode in 2016, an unusual number of voters in Riverside, California, complained that they were turned away at the polls during the primary because their voter registration information had been changed.
The Riverside County district attorney, Mike Hestrin, investigated and determined that the voter records of dozens of people had been tampered with by hackers. Hestrin said this week that federal officials confirmed his suspicions in a private conversation, saying the details were classified.
Denying that fraud happens is just an ignorant statement.
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I noticed something similar happening in Michigan, particularly after the election. It could have been a re-canvas of some nature, but the given policy in Michigan required the ballots to be separated from envelops prior to a ballot being counted. This means, that even if the voter registration database was updated after the election, the votes would still count.
Canvasing would prove if the voter record database was accurate. This is also something the Department of Justice recently warned against, claiming it was voter intimidation to conduct a canvas during a post election audit (which would incur criminal penalties):
There have been reports, with respect to some of the post-2020 ballot examinations, of proposals to
contact individuals face to face to see whether the individuals were qualified voters who had
actually voted. (page 7 of the statement by DOJ)
Fderal Law Constraints
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:16 pm to dgnx6
Is trump reinstated yet, pillow man said he would be this month and so far I've yet to see the evidence.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:23 pm to omegaman66
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I saw it, don't tell me it isn't real.
Lol yeah big foot is real! I saw him in that video!
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:31 pm to hubertcumberdale
I said on this board some time back Mike got ripped off.
It's not really his fault, his heart was in the right place though.
It's not really his fault, his heart was in the right place though.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:46 pm to smh4wg
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It's not really his fault, his heart was in the right place though
At some point In this he knew he was lying. He needs to own up.
I do agree it started innocently enough most likely trying to prove fraud
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:54 pm to oklahogjr
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Agreed unfortunately many don't understand that trying to smother a message and Keeping it from seeing the light of day just allows the idea to fester in the dark with bad actors.
Well said.
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