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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:04 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:04 pm to burger bearcat
Well then start paying attention to all the evidence of election fraud he brought out to many eyes before the 7pm segment.
There is ample evidence of fraud. Everybody knows there was fraud. You would have to be so stupid that you don't even understand what an election is to not know their was fraud.
Most knew it was coming even before the election. How? Video of them collecting ballots. What that isn't enough? How is that in of itself not enough to know there was fraud. We have it on video!
Then there the vote count going in reverse for Trump. How is that not enough for every single person to know there was fraud.
Are the boarding up of the windows.
Are the sending home observers.
Are all these swing states stopping counting and then all a the same time sending in the votes that swung the election from Trump to Xiden.
How is any of that small portion of evidence not enough? It is enough and EVERYBODY knows it. There isn't a single person dumb enough to believe that Xiden won fairly.
Anyone that says otherwise is lying!
There is ample evidence of fraud. Everybody knows there was fraud. You would have to be so stupid that you don't even understand what an election is to not know their was fraud.
Most knew it was coming even before the election. How? Video of them collecting ballots. What that isn't enough? How is that in of itself not enough to know there was fraud. We have it on video!
Then there the vote count going in reverse for Trump. How is that not enough for every single person to know there was fraud.
Are the boarding up of the windows.
Are the sending home observers.
Are all these swing states stopping counting and then all a the same time sending in the votes that swung the election from Trump to Xiden.
How is any of that small portion of evidence not enough? It is enough and EVERYBODY knows it. There isn't a single person dumb enough to believe that Xiden won fairly.
Anyone that says otherwise is lying!
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:05 pm to davyjones
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And that's really the question: does there exist the capabilities to engage in proactive election fraud/interference on a scale that could actually affect the outcome by way of a cascade of events? If you believe there does exist those capabilities, I think it would be quite naive to presume that those who possess the capabilities would nicely forego utilizing those tools/weapons.
This whole thing is so incredibly decentralized. They had a guy talking about that earlier. that makes hacking all 50 states worht of election data seem to be extremely unlikely.
the amount of coordination, manpower, and resources to pull something like that off without getting caught would be incredible. i'd rate it maybe possible definitely not something you could pull off everywhere. atleast for massive 50 states all being fradulent stuff. as for smaller in precinct hacks, sure that could happen but it's probably not changing the election or moving the needle.
I think the answer is much more plausible, the rules were bent by the democrats. right in broad daylight through actions in government that favored them and helped get the turnout they needed to vote trump.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:06 pm to mmcgrath
What day does Trump and Sidney Powell appear? Is Lyn Wood really in Marlargo?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:07 pm to omegaman66
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Well then start paying attention to all the evidence of election fraud he brought out to many eyes before the 7pm segment.
There is ample evidence of fraud. Everybody knows there was fraud. You would have to be so stupid that you don't even understand what an election is to not know their was fraud.
When did I ever say the election was clean? Of course the Dems stole it.
But the point remains, is ML redpilling the deniers or not with his symposium? I'm not seeing it, but maybe I am wrong.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:07 pm to oklahogjr
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I sometimes wonder if i was china/russia whoever and i wanted to frick with US elections. would i really need to change the vote at all? or could i do just enough and sow just enough disinformation to make people think it was messed with. certainly would be easier and accomplishes pretty much the same thing.
In 2016 I was sitting in a SOC with a cyber security pro in October. The company I was working for had gotten the contract to secure their election from hackers and we had just done penetration testing across their networks for their Sec of State. The FBI/HS had sent out a list of IP addresses they wanted us to look for that they said were indications of russian hackers. The addresses included common russian addresses used fairly often by script kiddies as well as Israeli, French, Iranian. May have been another one. But when we got that we just looked at each with disbelief because we knew that wasn't a serious indicator of a state actor attempting to haxxor your election. And I told him, "You watch, when we find those in the logs there's going to be an article come out saying that the Russians attempted to hack this state's network."
After Trump was elected, that's exactly what happened.
We were monitoring it live that night and there was nothing out of the ordinary that happened. We wrote the SOS a paper with all the proof he needed that nothing had happened. But prior to the election in October the FBI/HS showed up to a meeting with the SOS with about 20 freaking agents saying they were there to take over security.
We talked about all this and it was obvious to us at the time that what they were doing was telling a story. And everyone involved was under an NDA for two years at least so they weren't going to get disputed. And that story was just to put that thought in the mind of the public. That doubt.
You don't need the russians or the Chinese to screw up our elections and kill confidence in them. It was very simple in 2016. They opened that pandoras box themselves. Now they want to put it all back in. Not happening.
We didn't know about all this back then. I honestly believed you couldn't do it. I don't believe that anymore.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:07 pm to I B Freeman
Oh god...
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:08 pm to Crimson1st
quote:I have been following the reporting. Mostly to laugh at this Heaven' Gate level insanity.
You start off by basically saying you aren’t watching it then follow right up with some bullshite claim you make because you haven’t been watching it! Typical mentally vapid liberal tool!
If you can point out a single poster who has watched all 24 hours of this nonsense so far, I will feel very sorry for them.
No one can list out all of the evidence that proves that the Chinese government changed votes from Trump to Biden in every state and when and how.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:10 pm to oklahogjr
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I think the answer is much more plausible, the rules were broken by the democrats. right in broad daylight through actions in government that favored them and helped get the turnout they needed to vote trump.
This is the correct answer. They also did stuff the ballots with phony ballots. They had a number of schemes.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:12 pm to oklahogjr
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I think the answer is much more plausible, the rules were bent by the democrats. right in broad daylight through actions in government that favored them and helped get the turnout they needed to vote trump.
We are in agreement there. And to be fair, Trump's words to this effect were, as usual, manipulated and/or selectively contextualized. What I mean by that is this: an honest assessment of Trump's overall position should lead to the conclusion that when he said "fraud" it was always intended by him to cover both the nefarious version of the word, as well as what you mentioned, i.e. inappropriate/unconstitutional/perhaps even illegal misapplication of state voting laws and rules. Each and every time he referenced "fraud" he meant both avenues. Could he have been better with more specificity, sure, but to me it was always obvious that he meant both avenues.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:14 pm to omegaman66
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Most knew it was coming even before the election. How
Lowest hanging fruit out there is that from day 1 the liberals in all shapes and sizes along with Never Trumpers had done every scam possible to get rid of him. Those bars were high though like 2/3 the Senate to convict…by far, especially with the door opened with Covid, the easiest way to rid Trump was to cheat in the election. My God how stupid does one have to be to now see that before you get into any technical stuff…
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:14 pm to burger bearcat
I didn't mean to imply you said the election was clean. My point wasn't directed at the whole group of people wanting what they already have... undeniable proof that election fraud happened.
People keep waiting for what we already have!!!
I am pretty sure that if 10000 people are registered to vote and 11000 people voted then that is proof positive of election fraud.
We already have enough evidence for people to swing.
People keep waiting for what we already have!!!
I am pretty sure that if 10000 people are registered to vote and 11000 people voted then that is proof positive of election fraud.
We already have enough evidence for people to swing.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:17 pm to omegaman66
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People keep waiting for what we already have!!!
We still need hard evidence to convince the fence riders. Without the middle of the road moderates joining our side, it won't mattee.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:19 pm to omegaman66
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am pretty sure that if 10000 people are registered to vote and 11000 people voted then that is proof positive of election fraud.
We already have enough evidence for people to swing
Where and when did it happen. Show me the data please good sir
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:20 pm to burger bearcat
You guys overcomplicate shite and your burden if proof is so freaking high
Are the machines secure?
Yes or no.
They are connected to the net? Right? Proven ?
If they are hackable, they were hacked. And you can bet your arse on that.
So keep saying Lindell hasn't proven anything. In my book, your being useful idiots for the bad guys.
Are the machines secure?
Yes or no.
They are connected to the net? Right? Proven ?
If they are hackable, they were hacked. And you can bet your arse on that.
So keep saying Lindell hasn't proven anything. In my book, your being useful idiots for the bad guys.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:22 pm to burger bearcat
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We still need hard evidence to convince the fence riders.
Since when is video of fraud not hard evidence?
Since when is video of ballots being run multiple times not hard evidence?
Since when is emails of them talking about fraud not hard evidence?
Since when is more people voting in a district that actual voters in the district not hard evidence?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:23 pm to RiverCityTider
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You guys overcomplicate shite and your burden if proof is so freaking high Are the machines secure? Yes or no. They are connected to the net? Right? Proven ? If they are hackable, they were hacked. And you can bet your arse on that. So keep saying Lindell hasn't proven anything. In my book, your being useful idiots for the bad guys.
Lmao not sure that would hold up too well in court
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:24 pm to omegaman66
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Since when is video of fraud not hard evidence?
Since when is video of ballots being run multiple times not hard evidence?
Since when is emails of them talking about fraud not hard evidence?
Since when is more people voting in a district that actual voters in the district not hard evidence?
None of that is real, just like all of the other “evidence”
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:25 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Lmao not sure that would hold up too well in court
It is plenty admissible in the court of public opinion, which is as important as anything else at this particular stage.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:27 pm to davyjones
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:28 pm to davyjones
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It is plenty admissible in the court of public opinion, which is as important as anything else at this particular stage.
Mike Lindell said he was going to bring this evidence to the Supreme Court
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