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re: Official Pillow Guy Symposium: only flat-earthers remain excited

Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:59 am to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:59 am to
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Why does the method of cheating have to be the same in every state?


That was a mike lindell and Dr franks claim that i don't think makes much sense actually.


If you were gonna cheat you would Tailor it by county and state not one global way most likely since disperate systems and processes.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:03 am to
Lots of news coming out that need to be digested bit by bit.


1) Lots of smoke and anomalies being presented that warrant audits in every state

2)Josh Merritt and Steve Bannon are about to completely turn on Lindell unless he delivers the packet captures that now currently “dont exist” according to people there

3) Did he really remove the reward for 5 mil?

4) Code Monkey actually delivered the most compelling evidence of any criminality with the Mesa Forensic Image
Posted by OldManRiver
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:25 am to
If the packet captures turns out to be fictional, does that mean all of the slides and graphics showing 2 sets of vote totals per state are fictional as well? I'm pretty sure those were the numbers that Mike kept touting on Wednesday as being changed from the "China hack". But if the data about that hack was bullshite, that makes the numbers bullshite too
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:30 am to
I think one of the hardest parts for me to reconcile here is that a lot of these theories actually rule out other ones. For example with Dr franks, you have to believe every single state was affected the same way or his numbers don't make sense. Then if you turn around and believe dominion hacked and was opening up ports with the logs, you're now into dominion specific stuff that doesn't apply across all states
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:30 am to
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Why does the method of cheating have to be the same in every state?
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That was a mike lindell and Dr franks claim that i don't think makes much sense actually.

I think the 'same in every state' refers to the use of a 6th order polynomial as the basic tool used for post-election vote manipulation.

The 6 parameters that describe the actual shape of the curves are selected to best characterize the population of that state. NOT the same shape for all states.

That makes perfect sense to me. Trying to redesign the basic approach for each state would be incomprehensibly more difficult if the 6th order polynomial offers a workable scheme within which all critical requirements can be met.
Would be like re-evaluating the number of wheels to put on every model of every car produced with the hope that in some circumstances a vehicle with 7 wheels might offer a couple of advantages in certain situations.

Old NASA axiom = "don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough"
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If you were gonna cheat you would Tailor it by county and state not one global way most likely since disperate systems and processes.

= nope - design the vehicle around the concept of 4 wheels and add options such as limited slip differentials and all wheel drive and assisted lane guidance to address special needs.

Only go to 3-wheel versions for non standard specific needs for 'wind in the face' users - or six wheeled designs for lunar missions, etc.

If the goal is producing the most efficient design for 99.99% of consumer transportation requirements stick with the known 4 wheel design and tailor options within that framework to best adapt to specific user needs/desires.
Posted by YankeeBama
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:34 am to
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If the packet captures turns out to be fictional, does that mean all of the slides and graphics showing 2 sets of vote totals per state are fictional as well? I'm pretty sure those were the numbers that Mike kept touting on Wednesday as being changed from the "China hack". But if the data about that hack was bullshite, that makes the numbers bullshite too



Yes. That is why Bannon is on fire about this. Steve has had him on his shows for months touting this claim with promises of letting everyone see the data. The symposium was originated as a way for cyber experts to examine his packet captures at the same time. If Mike doesn’t even have the captures then it is horrible. I would say that he just damaged the credibility of the audit movement severely.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:39 am to
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Yes. That is why Bannon is on fire about this. Steve has had him on his shows for months touting this claim with promises of letting everyone see the data. The symposium was originated as a way for cyber experts to examine his packet captures at the same time. If Mike doesn’t even have the captures then it is horrible. I would say that he just damaged the credibility of the audit movement severely.


Lindell has today to deliver the goods or he can shut his mouth. If he can't deliver the data packets, his legitimacy is toast. And because of that he has done severe harm to the audit movement by hyping this thing mire than Wrestlemania.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:40 am to
Without the packet captures, you've had a 3 day event that basically says 2 things

1) A HS math teacher has seemingly come up with a single equation depicting fraud in all 50 states. Until it is completely open and proven by other mathematicians, it's an unverifiable claim

2) Yesterday we saw that at some point a Dominion machine had data on it, and then didn't have data. And we also saw apparently that there are security vulnerabilities in that machine. I would think that anybody with a modicum of interest in this has known for months now these machines aren't nearly as secure as they have been claimed to be
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37329 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:52 am to
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He will deliver the three days of HIS information as HE WISHES TOO.

STFU, Shite for brains
put up or shut up time for Pillow Guy.
Posted by Jax Teller
Member since Aug 2018
4658 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:56 am to
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4) Code Monkey actually delivered the most compelling evidence of any criminality with the Mesa Forensic Image


Is there a recap video of what CM did? I was there when it started and they had a bunch of technical issues, and then I had to get back to work. I want to see a synopsis of his work yesterday if possible.
Posted by Poohbear8487
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:00 am to
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Is there a recap video of what CM did? I was there when it started and they had a bunch of technical issues, and then I had to get back to work. I want



No video but his recap of yesterday


quote:

Regarding today’s event: We had technical difficulties getting started and had communication issues due to server attacks on our communication lines and instability of the public live streams. People were asking why we didn’t run tools on the data. It is because we were not remoted into a Windows server that had the image loaded; we had just mounted a forensic image of the files and were able to view the file tree and files only. Due to the setup of the forensic image, we were not able to run tools such as regedit, event viewers, or dll analyzers. We could not run the executable files inside the forensic image.

We did not have a windows server setup with the image loaded due to obtaining the publicly-available data at the last minute. There simply was not enough time to setup a server because the show was already scheduled and we wanted to do it live. We came across unprepared, and it is true in a sense because we had just obtained the data. It was my very first time looking at the data and I did not know what exactly would be found on the systems ahead of the event.

Interestingly, we did uncover a few critical things: 1. There appeared to be web server logs which potentially indicate that the server was accepting and executing commands remotely. 2. Election related data pre-upgrade was not present on the machine post-upgrade. This indicates that election related data was deleted or otherwise removed during the upgrade process. 3. The server had a suspicious configuration script designed to remove server security, potentially opening the machine up to a network hack. These issues warrant additional investigation.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:03 am to
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If you were gonna cheat you would Tailor it by county and state not one global way most likely since disperate systems and processes.



It does make sense. It's not 1 global way. They are following the census in each state.

Each state is different.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:04 am to
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Yesterday we saw that at some point a Dominion machine had data on it, and then didn't have data.


It didn't have data in the same file location.

We don't know if something was just moved or deleted yet. Tbd.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:07 am to
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does make sense. It's not 1 global way. They are following the census in each state.

Each state is different.


Gotcha, so how can we as a board duplicate this effort? And show without a doubt there is voter fraud? Yesterday people weren't able to even find his sourced data to review the census part. Let alone the algorithms that then predict stuff.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:08 am to
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I think one of the hardest parts for me to reconcile here is that a lot of these theories actually rule out other ones. For example with Dr franks, you have to believe every single state was affected the same way or his numbers don't make sense. Then if you turn around and believe dominion hacked and was opening up ports with the logs, you're now into dominion specific stuff that doesn't apply across all states


This phenomenon is common when the presenter is throwing shite at the wall to see what sticks.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7437 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:08 am to
I think a lot of this is as simple as Lakeisha running extra ballots over and over and over unattended for 6 hours.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:09 am to
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so how can we as a board duplicate this effort? And show without a doubt there is voter fraud


next time get computer engineers and statisticians.

show your work.

arizona is a sham.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3956 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:12 am to
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arizona is a sham.



Yes. They heated their asses off.
Posted by Poohbear8487
Member since May 2015
993 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:16 am to
Yall may be overthinking this. They cheated in multiple ways.

1) Fake exit polls before the election
2) Unconstitutional election laws
3) Expected to win using the machines
4) Panicked when Trump was ahead, called it early and went to paper ballots to get the win
5) Have so many different compartmentalized cheating options that it makes it extremely hard to reconcile

quote:

"Now, you know better than anyone, cases like these are never solved. They're simply too complicated, too much hard work. There's a lot going on out there in this world. And you just never can connect A to B."
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42045 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:16 am to
They raided another house. WTF!!
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