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re: NYT says Trump expected to pardon SEAL on Memorial Day
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:09 pm to Port Royal
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:09 pm to Port Royal
Some people are so pampered that they have no real understanding of what war truly entails.
You don't try to make peace with a rabid dog dog after it's already tasted blood, it needs to be put down.
*Edit: speech to text issues
You don't try to make peace with a rabid dog dog after it's already tasted blood, it needs to be put down.
*Edit: speech to text issues
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 6:10 pm
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:10 pm to RollTide1987
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There is no such thing as an innocent Muslim in that part of the world.
You are a fricking moron. Innocent civilians aside, do you know how fricked we would be without allies in those regions like interpreters who give their lives to help our guys there?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:13 pm to DeafJam73
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For the record, no I don’t want to see children and elderly die in war. But it’s war. You win by breaking the enemy’s faith in their cause. You do that by killing the combatants and whoever supports them.
Do you even know the details of his war crimes or you speaking in generalities? Let's set aside the fact that this whole thing started when he stabbed an enemy combatant in custody who was already severely injured and had just been be given first aid by a medic on his team and he took the opportunity of the medic walking away to stab to death the guy they were treating. Let's rationalize that somehow this was justified.
But how about the fact that this guy was on sniper duty when he simply shot a girl in a group of school children in school uniform walking to school? Apparently the other girls had to drag the dead girl away. Just imagine going through that as a kid. How do you defend that? This guy is severely damaged in the head and is a basket case to put it mildly.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:15 pm to ChatRabbit77
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Innocent civilians aside, do you know how fricked we would be without allies in those regions like interpreters who give their lives to help our guys there?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, I suppose. And just because they help us out doesn't make them innocent.
There has been more than one interpreter who has turned around and shot one of our guys in the back since this shite began back in 2001.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:17 pm to rickgrimes
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he stabbed an enemy combatant in custody who was already severely injured and had just been be given first aid by a medic on his team and he took the opportunity of the medic walking away to stab to death the guy they were treating. Let's rationalize that somehow this was justified.
They would have done much worse to a captured American. Why should I care?
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But how about the fact that this guy was on sniper duty when he simply shot a girl in a group of school children in school uniform walking to school? Apparently the other girls had to drag the dead girl away. Just imagine going through that as a kid. How d
Any proof other than hear-say that this happened?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:19 pm to rickgrimes
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Let's set aside the fact that this whole thing started when he stabbed an enemy combatant in custody
To what nation did this "enemy combatant" profess his allegiance to? Was he not an irregular fighter? Are irregular fighters subject to the rules of war? He could have been executed right there on the spot by this guy and I wouldn't have blinked an eye. The enemy combatant was an animal who would have blown himself up and taken Americans with him if given the chance. Stabbing him to death was a mercy. I would have loved to have seen him smothered to death with pig guts myself.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:31 pm to RollTide1987
Pardoning war criminals makes sure the entire world knows that Americans are on the same level as the Taliban. It also sends the clear message to enemy combatants that if they may be captured, they must fight to the death and kill as many Americans as possible because they will be killed anyway.
How your soldiers conduct combat create understandings that can save American lives. Or you can act in ways that will motivate the enemy to maximize American casualties. That’s why we have rules.
How your soldiers conduct combat create understandings that can save American lives. Or you can act in ways that will motivate the enemy to maximize American casualties. That’s why we have rules.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:38 pm to TBoy
You cried while typing that, yes?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:41 pm to skeeter531
Good.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:47 pm to Geauxgurt
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“Chief Gallagher stands accused of murder in the killing of a verified ISIS combatant in a warzone based on inconsistent testimony and without any physical evidence,” Hunter said in a January statement.
Congrats on taking the word of liars over those who are better than you providing the very umbrella of freedom you bitch about how they provide said freedom. You are a coward.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:59 pm to Sentrius
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Sorry but I see quite a bit of shades of Richard Sherman in this particular SEAL and that just does not fly with me as Sherman was a barbaric and evil monster that fought a war not on the battlefield but by terrorizing their enemy's women and children.
Who? The cornerback or the brother that wrote Mary Poppins score?
Because if you’re referring to William Tecumseh Sherman you should just quietly leave this discussion.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:00 pm to rickgrimes
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He can get pardoned, but that SEAL was a piece of shite that brought shame to our country. We are supposed to be better than the enemies we fight.
We are; but like with their (Islamists) disrespect and hatred for our Constitution...we won't let them use it to harm us. Fire with fire. Those low-lifes will put their women and kids out front.
This pardon is brilliant. Trump delivers in ways that I seriously doubted that he could.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:04 pm to Sentrius
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Richard Sherman
who is that?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:05 pm to RollTide1987
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War crimes do not apply to irregulars anyway. When did the Taliban, or Al-Qaeda, or ISIS sign the Geneva Accords?
Bingo. They do not fight as soldiers under the flag of a sovereign nation. No treaties or agreements apply to them. They are essentially just rogue criminals.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:19 pm to RCDfan1950
There is contradictory evidence to the charges against Gallagher and the team OIC. The charges were controversial because they were brought by a malcontent, who had a history clashing with Gallagher and the Lt. The higher ups in SD lost their minds when the rest of the team closed ranks and lawyered up. It was at that time that SD threw the book at both men, and began doing everything possible, legal or not. The civilian attorneys were denied discovery, and the Chief Jag in SD did everything possible to secure a conviction.
For those of you who believe the UCMJ is a fair and impartial arbiter, you couldn't be more wrong. Being on a CM Jury can end your career if you don't decide the right way.
For those of you who believe the UCMJ is a fair and impartial arbiter, you couldn't be more wrong. Being on a CM Jury can end your career if you don't decide the right way.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:25 pm to skeeter531
#FreeEddie
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:33 pm to skeeter531
The whole concept of war crimes is fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:42 pm to Port Royal
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There is contradictory evidence to the charges against Gallagher and the team OIC. The charges were controversial because they were brought by a malcontent, who had a history clashing with Gallagher and the Lt. The higher ups in SD lost their minds when the rest of the team closed ranks and lawyered up. It was at that time that SD threw the book at both men, and began doing everything possible, legal or not. The civilian attorneys were denied discovery, and the Chief Jag in SD did everything possible to secure a conviction. For those of you who believe the UCMJ is a fair and impartial arbiter, you couldn't be more wrong. Being on a CM Jury can end your career if you don't decide the right way.
I believe it PR. I have zero faith in any prosecution of an American soldier that was convicted under the Obama Military. That's what happens to faith when evidence comes out that the Obama Adm. criminally corrupted the whole Bureaucracy. With a mountain more to come.
Like trading those terrorists for the traitor Bergdahl in broad daylight, or sneaking that 150 Billion in cash to the Mullahs in the middle of the night isn't enough to see where Obama's real loyalty lies.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:02 pm to Geauxgurt
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Congrats on celebrating the release of men who murdered innocent people. Good to know we don’t hold ourselves to a higher standard.
Good God this is pathetic. ?
Link to 100% truth. ie video, recording, hell ill accept a telegraph. Ill hang up and not hold my breath waiting for this 100% proof.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:07 pm to rickgrimes
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Sorry, but I'm siding with the other SEALS on his team who ratted him out on this one.
You mean 2 guys who had an axe to grind or the rest of the team that swears none of this happened?
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