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re: NYT: How 14 independent voters feel about America

Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:37 am to
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7580 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:37 am to
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Never mind that FDR was an extremely wealthy man.

Hepburn: We don't care about money here.
Howard Hughes: You don't care about money because you've always had it.
- The Aviator (2004)
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:39 am to
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How do independent voters feel about President Biden and America after his first year in office? Let’s put it this way: His weak approval ratings might go up if he pulled a Trump and just declared that America was moving on from the pandemic and he was going all in against inflation and high gas prices. Never mind about voting rights or avoiding another Jan. 6. It’s the economy, Joe.
And to every one of those independents who were all in on the whole "lives matter more than money, you just are OK with people dying" mantra TWO frickING YEARS AGO when those of us with a brain were saying it don't do this shite................frick YOU. I hope you fricking starve with today's prices. You don't get to bitch about the economy now. We told you. You said we were heartless borderline murderers.

Starve mother frickers.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:40 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79692 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:42 am to
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The people you need — DGAF about anything you said yesterday. And were not impressed that you spent a whole two hours rambling about shite they don’t care about.


Joe doesn’t understand who he needs.

Look at his whole career: he was a senator from a flyspeck of a state that just happens to be the HQ of the banking/credit card industry. Those guys made sure he was re-elected every 6 years because he was a compliant stooge. Then, in a move that can only be described as picking up a life insurance policy, Obama made this career hack his VP. Fast forward to 2020 when this nitwit was installed as POTUS…after seldom having left his basement.

The guy has been in an ivory tower for the past 50 years. He knows nothing about the voters.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64660 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:45 am to
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but White people bend themselves out of shape to avoid being labeled a racist.


Truth
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:45 am to
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Most independent voters are fricking morons who have no concrete values or principles. They’re the political equivalent of bisexuals. Suck a dick one day, eat some poon the next.


I'm registered as NP ("no party"), which I guess is a de facto independent, primarily because I don't necessarily love the Republican PARTY. That said, my political beliefs are mostly conservative and I vote accordingly.

IMO, many "independents" think themselves as "open-minded' and "thoughtful". But I think the reality is most are generally uninformed and easily swayed.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79692 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:47 am to
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I'm registered as NP ("no party"), which I guess is a de facto independent, primarily because I don't necessarily love the Republican PARTY. That said, my political beliefs are mostly conservative and I vote accordingly.


This describes me too.

I think the people they were targeting were more of the disengaged, wish-washy type.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24822 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:48 am to
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I loathe independent voters. If you haven't figure out which side you are on after the least 12 years, you don't need to be voting.

Ok you loathe me then. I'm an independent voter.

Why am I an independent voter? Because both the DNC and the GOPe are one and the same, and they don't care about me or you or their voters.

There are definitely two sides though:

A) Politicians, and

B) We the People

Some of the People just choose to side with the politicians either willingly or through ignorance.

Me? I'm on the side that rejects big government, globalism, astronomical taxes and the MIC. My apologies if that makes me an idiot.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:49 am to
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Why am I an independent voter? Because both the DNC and the GOPe are one and the same,
Silliness

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Some of the People just choose to side with the politicians either willingly or through ignorance.

Me? I'm on the side that rejects big government, globalism, astronomical taxes and the MIC. My apologies if that makes me an idiot.

What does this have to do with how you VOTE!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:52 am to
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This describes me too.

I think the people they were targeting were more of the disengaged, wish-washy type.

Yup.

There's a difference between not being in a party and being a voter whose vote is completely unpredictable and not moored to anything vaguely resembling principle.

IDGAF about Republicans as a party. I simply have mostly conservative views which are entirely incompatible with what the Democrats are selling. Which is why it would be weird as frick for someone with my views to vote in one election for some Pelosi type and then in the next, for Ted Cruz.

Which is what an amazing number of "independents" do!
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93721 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:52 am to
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I loathe independent voters. If you haven't figure out which side you are on after the least 12 years, you don't need to be voting.


God forbid someone consider BOTH sides of an argument.

Both sides are equally fricking insane.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65117 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:52 am to
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I loathe independent voters. If you haven't figure out which side you are on after the least 12 years, you don't need to be voting.


You haven’t always been right.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41130 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:53 am to
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The divisive two party federal system is a horrible way to base your entire voting decision




Thank you.


If we've learned anything in the last 20 years it's that Rs and Ds are both headed towards a socialist/fascist conclusion. The Ds are running there and the Rs are walking, but they are both headed to the same place.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:54 am to
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God forbid someone consider BOTH sides of an argument.

Both sides are equally fricking insane.
Yes. Consider them. Then make a fricking decision!

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15432 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:54 am to
They aren’t happy, have no confidence the Democrats can do anything right, yet most will still vote for them over someone capable like Trump.

Insane
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6849 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:58 am to
The feelings described by the independent voters reveal a loss of Hope. Removing God in favor of Humanism has consequences.
Absolute Morality needs to make a big comeback.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27534 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:00 am to
If the dumbass leaves it on his porch he's asking for it 8 out of 7 times does not matter the neighborhood especially if it is a decent bike.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:00 am to
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I’ve had my bike stolen here in Austin, in a very gentrified neighborhood, four different times in the last seven, eight months.

An independent? In Austin? Named Dickie?

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29475 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:02 am to
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I think the people they were targeting were more of the disengaged, wish-washy type.
Yes, that’s why I said “most” and not “all.”
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 9:05 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:02 am to
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The people you need — DGAF about anything you said yesterday.

This is the part that fascinates me. Why Dems are listening to the Nevertrump clowns that brought so much ruin on the GOP is beyond me. They were pushed out of the party for a reason.
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
2864 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 9:06 am to
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Tenae (44, Black, California, director of security dispatch): New normal.


Of course. Lay down and take it and submit to your master dems
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