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re: NSA Whistleblower: Agency ‘Absolutely’ Tapping Trump’s Calls.. concerned

Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32716 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:58 pm to
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I think you are missing the point or ignoring it.


No I think the subject of the interview is making claims that aren't true or at least not supported by any public evidence.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:59 pm to
Once again your thread title is bs. And you linked breitbart again so it's bs baws off of bs.


And apparently you don't understand there are written transcripts of calls with foreign leaders. No tapping necessary.

But shill on shill

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55614 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:59 pm to
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So you don't think the NSA should try and root out spies and collaborators?




I have a great idea. Now that Trump is in office, let's allow him to decide who those people are and target them with the people he places in power.

You good with that!
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:00 pm to
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LOL! That's your link?



LOL! Your OP is from Breitbart!
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:01 pm to
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I have a great idea. Now that Trump is in office, let's allow him to decide who those people are and target them with the people he places in power.



The President should decide who foreign spies are, and not our spies. Gotcha.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37340 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:02 pm to
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So you don't think the NSA should try and root out spies and collaborators?
Trump is infallible and omnipotent. Every single one of his hires is a home run and and true American. The intelligence agencies should stop wasting time on investigations and instead ask Trump who the bad guys are.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:03 pm to
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And apparently you don't understand there are written transcripts of calls with foreign leaders. No tapping necessary.
Plus I think for the Australia call it's bloody obvious that the leak was someone in the room at Turnbull's end, not ours.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6880 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:04 pm to
Who was treated worse Manafort or Flynn?

It's not their fault Trump aides were in constant contact with Russia during his campaign.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Only Trumpsters see a difference in the leaks.

Trump is "Treated so Badly". Damn media



No.

1) Information, once it is out cannot be ignored and must be dealt with, regardless of it's source.

2) Leakers of classified information, including those who unwillingly cause the release, should be identified and dealt with according to the law.

Next?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Previously, the N.S.A. filtered information before sharing intercepted communications with another agency, like the C.I.A. or the intelligence branches of the F.B.I. and the Drug Enforcement Administration. The N.S.A.’s analysts passed on only information they deemed pertinent, screening out the identities of innocent people and irrelevant personal information.

Now, other intelligence agencies will be able to search directly through raw repositories of communications intercepted by the N.S.A. and then apply such rules for “minimizing” privacy intrusions.



So partly true.

quote:

Under the new system, agencies will ask the N.S.A. for access to specific surveillance feeds, making the case that they contain information relevant and useful to their missions. The N.S.A. will grant requests it deems reasonable after considering factors like whether large amounts of Americans’ private information might be included and, if so, how damaging or embarrassing it would be if that information were “improperly used or disclosed.”


And maybe partly false. But I trust government to do nothing according to its own internal rules. So not sure how accurate this all is.
LINK


Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:06 pm to
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2) Leakers of classified information, including those who unwillingly cause the release, should be identified and dealt with according to the law.



Does this include Assange and Snowden, or are they different because they are Trump's friends?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:07 pm to
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The President should decide who foreign spies are, and not our spies. Gotcha.


Not individual spies, each with their own agenda. The President set's the country's agenda and the bureaucrats follow it. Yes, that is the way it is supposed to work. I'm comfortable with that, within reason.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28538 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:07 pm to
Breitbart is the propaganda wing of the administration, as is Russia Today. Bring us something reputable.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Does this include Assange and Snowden, or are they different because they are Trump's friends?




My statements need no further clarification.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16134 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:07 pm to
There were people in the room during the conversations with Mexico and Australia. It didn't take a phone tap for someone in one of the two rooms to talk about it.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Who was treated worse Manafort or Flynn?



Manafort's lucky that he's not sitting in a jail cell in Kyiv.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6880 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:08 pm to
We know Flynn has shared classified info before.

He has changed and now he was "Treated so Badly".
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Plus I think for the Australia call it's bloody obvious that the leak was someone in the room at Turnbull's end, not ours.


Nice use of bloody.

There are a ton of people who could leak the leaders calls, most notably a low level unhappy staffer. The president likely has 10-20 ppl in the room on all of these calls. Hell the picture of the putin call had 7 in the frame.

Plus the other end.

I sincerely hope the NSA is not tapping the president's calls, unless they have a very good reason to do so.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
5062 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:26 pm to
It's one thing to be hacked by an external entity (i.e. Russians, other governments etc.) It is entirely different to have people within your own government intentionally give out and leak information that is classified just because you disagree with the person sitting in the WH.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19612 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:31 pm to
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It's one thing to be hacked by an external entity (i.e. Russians, other governments etc.) It is entirely different to have people within your own government intentionally give out and leak information that is classified just because you disagree with the person sitting in the WH.


Yet that's exactly what we have happening.
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