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re: NOAA : “among the eight warmest Februarys on record”
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:38 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:38 pm to GumboPot
The data over Houston is totally bullshite.
It’s been the coldest February here in recent memory, not slightly above average. Hell its still getting into the 40s at night here and it’s late March. The last few years it’s already been in the 80s by now.
It’s been the coldest February here in recent memory, not slightly above average. Hell its still getting into the 40s at night here and it’s late March. The last few years it’s already been in the 80s by now.
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:41 pm to GumboPot
So based on the fact it's not THE WARMEST....I guess one could say climate change could be a hoax. The whole premise that climate change is based on is the warming up of the Earth more and more each year...so each year would have to be warmer than the previous to support their hypothesis.
No one ever talks about volcanic activity warming the oceans as the plates shift about and lava flows from the core and warms the oceans.
No one ever talks about volcanic activity warming the oceans as the plates shift about and lava flows from the core and warms the oceans.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:48 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:Well OKC had an average high of 47.8 and an average low of 30.6 with a max high of 70 and min low of 15.
You could have fooled me when we had a full week with single digit lows here in Oklahoma... and the rest of the month was highs mostly in the 30s and 40s. One of the coldest Februaries I can recall here. It only just started getting nice here a week ago.
Tulsa has an average high of 48.9 and an average low of 31.0 with a max high of 69 and min low of 12.
Both only has 3 days where the low was below 20 degrees. Now Boise City in the panhandle was much colder with average low of 13 compared to the historical average of 21; however, its average high of 48 was near the historical average of 50.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:52 pm to GumboPot
“Among the 8”
That’s like coming in 8th place and saying “among the top 8”
That’s like coming in 8th place and saying “among the top 8”
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:52 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
quote:This is one of the most ridiculous interpretations I’ve ever seen, on either side of the debate. Only a person who has no understanding of math and science would ever interpret the underlying data of a trend as a constant of the trend without variation.
So based on the fact it's not THE WARMEST....I guess one could say climate change could be a hoax. The whole premise that climate change is based on is the warming up of the Earth more and more each year...so each year would have to be warmer than the previous to support their hypothesis.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:54 pm to Taxing Authority
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“science”
"Visualization of data"
And before you get your panties in a wad I'm very aware of bias in the presentation of data. Anyone could take that same data and change the color ramp or classify using Natural Breaks, Equal Interval, Quantile, or even manually-set thresholds and end up with a very different looking map.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:57 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:What is really sad is that Ted Cruz used one of Heller/Stoddard's charts to attack the NOAA in a presentation in the Senate in December 2015.
The biggest indictment of the author is that Anthony Watts from the popular Climate Skeptic/Denial website “Watts Up with That,” banned him from blogging on the website.
Stoddard's Tweet Dec 2015
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:02 pm to cokebottleag
quote:Accuweather Daily February Temperatures
The data over Houston is totally bull shite.
It’s been the coldest February here in recent memory, not slightly above average.
The average high for Houston in February 2019 was 68 degrees, which was 2 degrees warmer than the historical average of 66 degrees. The average low in February 2019 was 53 degrees, which was 6 degrees warmer than the historical average of 47 degrees. And the average daily temperature in February 2019 was 60 degrees, 3 degrees warmer than the historical average of 48 degrees.
So not only was it not one of the coldest Februaries on record, the average high, low, and overall temperature was warmer than average, and there were far more days with highs and lows warmer than their daily averages than days colder.
quote:Houston has already had 4 days above 80 in March of this year. In fact, it reached 81 on February 6th of this year.
Hell its still getting into the 40s at night here and it’s late March. The last few years it’s already been in the 80s by now.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:15 pm to bmy
quote:I’ve busted pHD candidate using red for temp decreases before. It wasn’t an accident. Nor was it to make his presentation “pretty”. It was keep support his conclusion that didn’t match his data.
"Distortion of data"
Thst said, we’re not really talking about the presentation. My problem is with the gap filling where the boundaries. Don’t support the filled values.
quote:Or (obstensibly neutral) presenters could choose colors according to centuries-old convention. They don’t make these kinds of choices accidentally.
Anyone could take that same data and change the color ramp or classify using Natural Breaks, Equal Interval, Quantile, or even manually-set thresholds and end up with a very different looking map.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:28 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:29 pm to GumboPot
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This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:34 pm to GumboPot
I didnt see NOAA on the ramp at MSP when it was 11 fricking below zero, with a 20 kt wind.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:35 pm to GumboPot
So. There were 7 prior warmer Februarys on record
Is this supposed to alarm me
Is this supposed to alarm me
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:38 pm to GumboPot
I’d live to know the temp in February 3.7 million years ago.
These clowns talk like Earth just started.
These clowns talk like Earth just started.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:47 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
The average high for Houston in February 2019 was 68 degrees, which was 2 degrees warmer than the historical average of 66 degrees. The average low in February 2019 was 53 degrees, which was 6 degrees warmer than the historical average of 47 degrees. And the average daily temperature in February 2019 was 60 degrees, 3 degrees warmer than the historical average of 48 degrees.
So not only was it not one of the coldest Februaries on record, the average high, low, and overall temperature was warmer than average, and there were far more days with highs and lows warmer than their daily averages than days colder
I said it was the coldest in recent memory, and much colder than the last few years.
Case in point, the website you cited has for 2018 in Feb, an average high of 71 degrees, and an average low of 55. This winter was several degrees colder.
The same was true of the last 3 februaries.
I've lived in Houston for almost 20 years, and last year when it snowed twice in the same year was the first, period. The last few years we haven't had a single freeze in Houston in February, this year it has frozen several times.
I said 'recent memory' which is still true.
The average high and low is based off of I assume about a hundred years, which is such a small time period as to be irrelevant for the question being asked.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:50 pm to Taxing Authority
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EDIT: dammit udtiger...
I would say great minds think alike, but I don't know you well enough to insult you like that
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:53 pm to ShortyRob
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So. There were 7 prior warmer Februarys on record
Is this supposed to alarm me
Right, that's like half of all Februaries according to the typical AGW study.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:53 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
This, combined with his inability to openly admit to and correct mistakes, is why I booted him from WUWT some years ago, after he refused to admit that his claim about CO2 freezing on the surface of Antarctica couldn’t be possible due to partial pressure of CO2.
Well it is possible but very rare. The temperature would have to reach below -78 degrees C. It's possible because the lowest temperature ever was -89.2 °C:
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:54 pm to texridder
quote:
Why didn't he get their attention by the quality of his research/writings instead of trying to fraudulently insinuate his way in.
Well he's got your attention now.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:58 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Is this supposed to alarm me
Yes. Vote for AOC now.
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